Daxim on 7/9/2017 at 19:51
Quote Posted by Sulphur
radical fundamentalists
I noticed you shifting a goalpost here. Not cool. Don't do that.
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Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 19:54
It all comes down to one question: do you want the board completely free of those who hold extreme opinions, or is it something that should be tolerated in the sense that it's allowed to be expressed, even if we find those opinions intolerable?
You know I err towards the latter. As I explained, so long as these opinions are expressed in their proper place, and you don't have people running around the boards screaming their anti-immigrant political screeds down in Thiefgen or wherever, I'll let it slide. Let them show the world how big of an asshole they are. So long as it's kept to vagaries, and the responses it earns are indignant, rather than actual personal offense, then it's allowed. This is what the political threads are for. They're meant for debate, and not everyone believes in things that'd we'd all considered decent or palatable. You're free to ignore it, or respond in kind.
But keep in mind, folks, that these lax rules only apply to the objectively political threads up here in Commchat. This is the only place I'm willing to make exceptions. If any of you decide to interrupt a non-political thread, and go off on a tangent about chemtrails, Muslims, Marxism, climate change, or what have you in a way that's actively disruptive, you'll get warned for the first offense, then you'll get timed out. If you decide to insult someone due to their race, religion, or creed, even in these political threads, you're just gone.
I will allow people to say stupid shit, so long as they're not stupid in how they say it.
ADDENDUM: Don't be actively antagonistic. If you can't present your stupid shit in a reasonable manner, fitting of a well reasoned debate, then don't say your stupid shit at all. Krush, compare and contrast the discussion we all had concerning healthcare vs. this for a good example.
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 19:56
Quote Posted by Krush
Nice kafkatrap there Brethren. So if I say I'm a Nazi, I'm banned. If I say I'm not a Nazi, then that proves I am one but won't admit it?
Is that really how this is going to work? Anyway, the Nazis lost so why would I want to be one?
Also, let's try to keep things reasonable in presentation. When you come into one of these threads screaming about how the left tolerates whatever bugbear's crawled up your ass in an overly emotional fashion, it doesn't endear me to you.
edit: though are you saying that the only reason why you don't want to be a Nazi is because they lost? You're
really not helping your own case here.
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 19:57
Ah, my bad, I thought you were trying to make a point that wasn't awful. I guess you're saying 'fundamentalist' also immediately means being a terrorist sympathiser? Oh boy.
Daxim on 7/9/2017 at 20:04
What kind of answer is that? I just flipped the bozo bit on you. *plonk*
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 20:09
From what I'm reading, Daxim, it seems you're equating the acts of extremists with those of its moderates, likely accusing the moderates of being willfully blind due to their loose association.
You do realize that this very excuse has been used to justify some pretty heinous shit in the past, right?
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 20:20
Quote Posted by Daxim
What kind of answer is that? I just flipped the bozo bit on you. *plonk*
I think it's cute people somewhere in the world still speak like that. And that's a brilliant citation; after all ISBN codes are hard numbers for talking points with, so far, zero quoted data.
rachel on 7/9/2017 at 20:49
Quote Posted by Daxim
raph: What good is your anecdote? That's not how arguments work.
I'm sharing my experience and how I feel about it, is all. I'm way past trying to change anybody's mind, I simply refuse to alter my behaviour based on the acts of cowards and I will always default to "this person doesn't want me dead" when meeting other people.
Feel free to do the same or not, based on what I say or not, it's out of my control therefore I don't care. No offense.
Daxim on 7/9/2017 at 21:04
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it seems you're equating the acts of extremists with those of its moderates
I don't.
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likely accusing the moderates of being willfully blind due to their loose association
I speculate it's rather indifference, that fits better to well-established observations of human nature.
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pretty heinous shit in the past
Can't/won't happen in Spain/modern Europe.
Kolya on 7/9/2017 at 22:42
Quote Posted by Daxim
If your country's statistics are anything like mine, then for each two of those kind wonderful persons there is one fundamentalist who does not condemn the attacks, or even commends the terrorists for increasing the glory of god.
That would mean that a third of all Austrian Muslims do not condemn terrorists or even glorify them. Ednan Aslan is a liberal critic of many Muslim traditions, but it would be surprising to hear such a sweeping statement from him (especially in a book about Muslim diversity). Maybe you could post the relevant quote from that book?
