catbarf on 25/3/2009 at 10:06
Quote Posted by Yakoob
I wonder how much stuff they are streaming - just the rendered frames (basically like a youtube) and receiving your input? That could work well. But it doesn't leave much room for any lag compensation or interpolation so I wonder how they're tackling that.
That's basically what it is.
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Back in the day I used to play HL mods with 250 ping and pwning noobs left and right. HL had some awesome netcode.
Remember, input lag. So 250 ping means 500ms between when you move the mouse and when the screen shows that anything happened.
Koki on 25/3/2009 at 10:16
Err, actually, no. 250ms ping means it takes the data 250ms to get there and back to you again.
Jason Moyer on 25/3/2009 at 11:48
Christ, just to get 30 frames per second you'd need a 33ms ping. I can't imagine there are too many places where that's reliable, unless they're planning on spreading their clusters around bigtime geographically. Either that or they've come up with some crazy prediction code that interpolates between frames somehow (and I'm kinda betting this is what they're doing).
I have a decent cable connection, and by the time data hits my ISP's backbone the pings have already gone from ~10ms to 30.
Fafhrd on 25/3/2009 at 16:15
Quote Posted by Koki
it's not a PC, it's a console.
Actually, it's a platform independent content delivery system for PC games. Pay attention.
Koki on 25/3/2009 at 18:42
It's a box. You plug it into TV. You turn it on and play a game with no install. You can't mod.
It's a console.
Actually you can't install Linux on it either, so I guess it's LESS than a console.
Fafhrd on 25/3/2009 at 20:41
It's also a web browser plug-in that can be run on PCs and Macs. It's a SERVICE. PAY ATTENTION
van HellSing on 25/3/2009 at 20:48
This won't work. At least I hope so.
Koki on 25/3/2009 at 20:59
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
It's also a web browser plug-in that can be run on PCs and Macs. It's a SERVICE.
PAY ATTENTIONu mad?
By the way, 5GiB connection for what? 1280x720? That's 16:9 equivalent of 1024x768. They don't even make monitors this small anymore.
Ostriig on 25/3/2009 at 21:17
Quote Posted by Koki
By the way, 5GiB connection for what? 1280x720? That's 16:9 equivalent of 1024x768. They don't even make monitors this small anymore.
I'm pretty sure the guy said 5Mb for the full bells and whistles package. I don't think that's entirely unfeasible today, and even less so in the near future. Regardless, whatever you want to call it, console, service, shit in a tube, the idea in itself
is interesting. It's just that it has some limitations that we, traditionally PC gamers, aren't very comfortable with, as well as the potential for a pretty major impact on the industry's distribution model, whether for the better or worse, if it succeeds. Personally, I don't think I'd readily embrace this thing, but that could be just me.
As for the 1280x720, well, technically speaking...
Quote Posted by Wikipedia - High-definition television
HDTV broadcast systems are identified with three major parameters:
* Frame size in pixels is defined as number of horizontal pixels x number of vertical pixels, for example 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080. Often the number of horizontal pixels is implied from context and is omitted.
* Scanning system is bla bla bla
Fafhrd on 25/3/2009 at 23:03
Quote Posted by Koki
1280x720? That's 16:9 equivalent of 1024x768. They don't even make monitors this small anymore.
Umm... laptops, netbooks, and the majority of LCD HDTVs smaller than 40 inches all have native resolutions of 1360x768 or smaller. Try again.
