CCCToad on 24/7/2011 at 03:55
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To me the psychos who engineered our most recent financial meltdown are equally inhuman and equally criminal. Even though they didn't use guns and bombs, they must have known that millions of people would be ruined and many of those would take their own lives. And it wasn't even for some sort of ideological motive (not that ideology is an excuse) but only for garden variety greed
It wasn't fraud1!1!1 It was because of genuine mistakes and risky investment, right? After all they were just doing "God's work".
Still though, this whole thing bothers. He's just TOO effective compared to your average nutjob and both attacks were extremely well though out. Too good for somebody who considers Modern Warfare 2 to be an effective training tool(hint, its possibly the most unrealistic "military" game out there). It seems more likely to me that he had some pretty substantial help in planning this attack from whatever nutjob buddies he hung out with. Additionally, the description of his attacks(I've only read open source so far) seems to fit more with the methods used by professional terror groups than what individual whackos usually do.
SD on 24/7/2011 at 04:15
Quote Posted by Shadow
"I just bought Modern Warfare 2, the game. It is probably the best military simulator out there and it’s one of the hottest games this year. I played MW1 as well but I didn’t really like it as I’m generally more the fantasy RPG kind of person – Dragon Age Origins etc .and not so much into first person shooters. I see MW2 more as a part of my training-simulation than anything else. I’ve still learned to love it though and especially the multiplayer part is amazing. You can more or less completely simulate actual operations."
Are we sure this guy doesn't post in GenGaming?
Jason Moyer on 24/7/2011 at 04:16
Yes, because everyone in GenGaming would refer to the Call of Duty games as simulators.
Nicker on 24/7/2011 at 04:28
Quote Posted by dethtoll
And nicker you're an asshole for trying to equate the mass murder of scores of people, mostly children, with the financial meltdown, diminishing both. Hang your fucking head in shame for threadshitting before we'd even had half a page in, getting the ball rolling for this thread to be fucking terrible before it's even off the ground.
I didn't equate the events, I said that the perpetrators of both were of a certain ilk.
We each have our own ways of processing these tragedies. Just expressing my sadness didn't seem enough in itself. Maybe I shouldn't have thought aloud and I certainly didn't do so with the intent to minimise this atrocity or to threadshit.
To those I have offended, I apologise. If I continue to offend you, then just ignore me.
Sg3 on 24/7/2011 at 04:28
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
In this case the guy is openly saying "I was using Modern Warfare 2 as a training simulator" which doesn't seem the same to me.
Maybe
Microsoft Flight Simulator should be banned, too, since omgterrorists used it to train to crash into buildings.
Jason Moyer on 24/7/2011 at 04:45
Wait, I said MW2 should be banned? Or this is TTLG reading comprehension awareness week.
Sg3 on 24/7/2011 at 05:16
I thought that was the logical progression from that line of reasoning. I mean, every time I've seen someone go, "He used the game to train for his act of terror!" they invariably follow it up with, "Clearly, the game should be banned!" I've not yet seen an exception to that, so ...
Jason Moyer on 24/7/2011 at 05:23
Nah, I'm not a believer in victimless crime. Playing a videogame, even if it actually could influence you to cause injury to another person, wouldn't hurt anyone in itself.
I was just trying to draw a distinction between the way the media/public will try to link two unrelated things (OMG HE PLAYED VIDEOGAMES AND ALSO KILLED PEOPLE?) with someone actually coming out and saying "yeah, I used this to train". I don't think it's as newsworthy as the fact the dude was a nationalist scumbag but I don't think it should be completely ignored when looking at his background, either. And, obviously, using a Call of Duty game as a war simulator is lol-worthy.
Muzman on 24/7/2011 at 09:05
Wow, he wanted to purge the world of "cultural Marxism" apparently. He'd got his work cut out for him in Norway, surely.
OnionBob on 24/7/2011 at 09:59
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Because that's exactly what I said, right? Well done genius. It's nice to have people like you in this world so people like me get to feel relatively intelligent.
Dolt.
that's dr dolt to you mr "what the world needs now is blood, more blood"
