Gloria Creep on 4/12/2023 at 18:29

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Hit Deity, I wish you and your wife all the best for this upcoming operation!

For me, Thief has been and is still my Lifesaver! I had some tough times in my life, but playing Thief had got me going on, mostly at night, when I was alone.
Nightshifter has helped me a lot, through Teamviewer, when I got problems with my Thiefgame on my PC and all of you have helped me when I got into trouble within the game.
I loved to betatest new FM's. I still do, so if you want me to betatest a new mission....feel free to contact me :ebil::thumb:
I played Thief right from the beginning in 1998. Joined the forums in 2002 and will stay here till the end!
I never forget the moderators allowed me to put in a thread when my first 2 granddaughters were born, in 2008. They are going to be 16 in February upcoming year. They were not twins. My eldest daughter and middle one were pregnant as the same time and gave birth on the 28th and the 29th of February 2008. I've got three daughters and 8 grandchildren now., 3 girls and 5 boys and I feel rich!!! :thumb: The youngest is 2 years old now and the rest in between :D

Keep on Taffing Taffers! :sly:

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baeuchlein on 11/12/2023 at 21:59

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Are you perhaps referring to "Kleptomaniac: The Not-So-Bright Project"? That is still available (http://www.thief-thecircle.com/fanworks/klepto/) here on The Circle.

Iceblade on 13/1/2024 at 04:47

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Hang on, what happened with the dark engine source code? I thought it was released and used to create New Dark? That code doesn't need to completely disappear otherwise we may run into issues getting the game to run on Windows 13 or whatever.

Twist on 13/1/2024 at 19:07

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It's not in the hands of the IP owners. An incomplete bit of the code was leaked (or found... I think it was on a CD-ROM with an incomplete port of Thief or System Shock 2 to the Dreamcast console, or something), and some anonymous individual squirreled it away to build and release NewDark. That was over a decade ago and we still don't know who NewDark's author is. But we (and the IP owners) are dependent on this author to keep Thief working on modern systems.

It's an unusual arrangement but so far it seems to work.

demagogue on 14/1/2024 at 10:59

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If it's any consolation, for a long time I felt like a perpetual newbie not measuring up to the "old timers", and even still a little today, because I joined the forum in 2003 instead of 2000.

Then again I need to pull out my reader glasses to even read this forum now, so I can't deny falling into the topic of this thread.

It is nice to have some new and younger people still making their way into the community so we keep the spirit alive and the youthful exuberance. I've seen younger people talking about The Black Parade the way we used to talk about most new campaigns, and that's another reason it's been a real trip back to the spirit of this place.

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Edit: I have a copy of the source code myself, so it definitely got out to the public.
But I could understand any platform hosting it getting closed later.
I still remembering walking through it to see how our favorite game worked.
I'd worked on Dark Mod code, so I think I had a good base to understand how the Thief source code was going to work; and it was very interesting for me to compare how the two games handled the same kinds of systems.

One thing that sticks out in my memory for some reason is that there was a modifier on the sword so that the damage fell off based on the offset of angle you were facing an enemy. So if you want to be sure your sword does its maximum damage to a guard, be sure to be facing squarely towards the guard when it hits.