icemann on 31/5/2019 at 12:43
If a series is not that far along then sure thing. But there had been 6 games prior including Red Alert's in there.
I'm still divided on which is the better game out of DoW 1 & 2. DoW for me felt more like the tabletop (despite the video game setting), due to all the expansions which added new races / factions. Where as DoW 2 finally added the Tyranid's, has a pretty good story and is quite solid. Plus the first DLC for it (Chaos Rising) was excellent.
And for the record, just because everyone else may hate a game, does not mean that I'm going to immediately hate it. I really enjoyed The Bureau - XCOM Declassified despite all the bugs. It's a spin off as well, so it's change of gameplay style is fine.
WingedKagouti on 31/5/2019 at 13:13
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
As a counter-point to the discussion about sequels, Dawn of War II changed the premise of the game entirely from the first game. The first is a classic RTS, while the second is a squad-based tactical game with more RPG elements.
Yet, despite some fans being obviously annoyed, Dawn of War II still has a positive review score (85% positive over its lifetime, 70% in recent reviews), because it's actually still a good game with the same high quality as the first game had.
There's one factor you forget to mention, DoW1 was closer to an older style of tabletop WH40k and more standard RTS games while DoW2 was closer to the tabletop WH40k style at the time of its release.
Tony_Tarantula on 1/6/2019 at 15:15
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It looks like you're saying this: anyone who's a C&C fan can't decouple their C&C nostalgia goggles from their face to look at C&C 4 with a smidge more objectivity. This is unfortunate if true, because it means that polarisation towards extremes is the only meaningful form of expression for fans.
I don't think we're living in a world as unfortunate as that, though, even if that type of communication is the norm.
Fan boys literally can not do that because they've tied their sense of self into the brand. Ergo, any failings of the brand or attacks on it feel like they're impacting their own personal sense of worth on an emotional level: (
https://www.gamesradar.com/psychology-fanboys-explained-professional/)
That said the hate for C&C4 was justified. The actual gameplay was terrible and the story failed to meaningfully follow up on what had been set by the series to date.
EvaUnit02 on 1/6/2019 at 19:45
Quote Posted by Tomi
Proper game critics might be annoyingly pretentious at times, but at least they don't usually let their emotions and zeal cloud their thinking this much.
Oh please, you see examples of game journalists getting into their feelings and going into moral panics every other week.
It hasn't even been a month since a couple reviewers were upset over playing "another gruff white male" protagonist in Days Gone; another couple were raging over him having an affectionate pet name for his wife, "old lady". There was pearl clutching over there being child zombie enemies too.
Starker on 1/6/2019 at 21:03
What about all the moral panic and pearl clutching that happens any time any reviewer dares to criticise, well, anything? "Game reviewers are saying what they think in a review, what has the world come to?" I had no idea the new generation of gamers were such precious snowflakes to not be able to handle an opinion about a game. But I guess this is what you get when all your news come from "one angry gamer".
Malf on 1/6/2019 at 22:23
Sounds like RSSBot02 is trying to say it's about ethics in game journalism.
No surprise there.
ANYHOO, back on track, I played some more of Spacebase DF-9 today, and had quite a lot of fun. Sure, because it was cut short in development, it's nowhere near as deep as it should have been, but that doesn't stop it being a good game.
It's a LOT like Startopia and less like Dwarf Fortress mind you.
But that's okay, 'cos Startopia's one of my all-time favourites.
So yeah, pleasantly surprised.
Next I'll see if I can be bothered to give my clicking-finger a vigorous workout by playing Godus Wars.
Tony_Tarantula on 6/6/2019 at 14:11
Not sure if it's on STEAM, but I actually enjoyed Enter the Matrix in spite of it's problems. Sue me.
Malf on 6/6/2019 at 22:51
Think I've got an original box copy of that somewhere. And yeah, while it was pretty janky, I remember enjoying it too. Like a much less polished Max Payne.
twisty on 7/6/2019 at 02:28
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* E.Y.E - Divine Cybermancy - This is nothing but a glorified Half-Life 2 mod, that they had the balls to charge for. They even left one of the original Half-Life 2 turrets in the game at the start with a different texture applied to it. They were that ballsy. I played this for about an hour. Got to a long hallway against an enemy with a rocket launcher I think, and it all just looked and felt meh. I really wasn't enjoying it, as the "game" just didn't excite me. Was nothing about it that was fun. Uninstalled.
I hated it as well but we seem to be on the outer judging by the "very positive" rating on Steam. Perhaps we both gave up to early? That said, I'm in no rush to give it another try.
Luckily I don't have any "overwhelmingly negative" games in my library but I do have 3 "mostly negative" ones:
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Deus Ex: The Fall (33%): I picked this up for a song during a sale some time ago. It didn't seem to be as terrible as the ratings appear to suggest but it plays more like a mobile game adapted to PC and I had no interest in spending any time with it.
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Underworld Ascendant (34%): This still needs a lot of work in its current state. I'll wait for the final patch before it giving it another try.
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Half-Life: Before (39%): I had no idea this was in my library -- never heard of it -- but it's actually a mod for Half Life. As such I won't be able to try it anyway as I don't own Half Life on Steam.
Tony_Tarantula on 7/6/2019 at 03:51
Quote Posted by Malf
Think I've got an original box copy of that somewhere. And yeah, while it was pretty janky, I remember enjoying it too. Like a much less polished Max Payne.
But with a surprisingly functional Kung-Fu system.