Shug on 9/8/2011 at 04:32
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While I can certainly understand your lack of love for RBJ, equating him to Hannity is just ridiculous. Hannity isn't just a tool, he's downright dim.
It's not often you see a boxer get KO'd twice in the same round before getting up and pretending he won the fight
Nicker on 9/8/2011 at 04:55
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Edit: Meanwhile it's Monday, the markets have opened since S&P downgraded the US gov't's credit rating and it's already a shitstorm, or more of it since it was already that last week.
Just wondering, as a foreigner, is S&P one of the agencies that gave a double thumbs up, AAA O.K. to the junk debt that sparked the last meltdown?
demagogue on 9/8/2011 at 05:05
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Just wondering, as a foreigner, is S&P one of the agencies that gave a double thumbs up, AAA O.K. to the junk debt that sparked the last meltdown?
Yes, and Krugman took them to task for it in his latest (
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/08/opinion/credibility-chutzpah-and-debt.html) OpEd piece. Something like: S&P has a lot of nerve down-grading the US when the crisis is in-part its fault, like the kid that kills his parents and then says "Have mercy. I'm an orphan!"
Tocky on 9/8/2011 at 05:15
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Edit: Meanwhile it's Monday, the markets have opened since S&P downgraded the US gov't's credit rating and it's already a shitstorm, or more of it since it was already that last week.
So Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, and company buy gold then talk it up on thier shows so it goes up as more buy it then it flattens out so they have to jerk the strings of the tea party to refuse to allow any budget compromise so gold goes up again as the market tanks. What will drive up the price of gold next? I shudder. Okay, I don't really believe that but it fits real well with my total evil destruction of the world so they will be fuedal lords theory. I just can't figure how S&P fit into the whole thing except as butthurt assrapers. Did they buy gold?
CCCToad on 9/8/2011 at 12:32
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Yes, if you're posting just for style points at this point then the judges want to see a little more.
Not really, that little jab is between me and him and I'd like to see him actually prove his "guilt by association" argument.
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So Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, and company buy gold then talk it up on thier shows so it goes up as more buy it then it flattens out so they have to jerk the strings of the tea party to refuse to allow any budget compromise so gold goes up again as the market tanks. What will drive up the price of gold next? I shudder. Okay, I don't really believe that but it fits real well with my total evil destruction of the world so they will be fuedal lords theory. I just can't figure how S&P fit into the whole thing except as butthurt assrapers. Did they buy gold?
Well, as far as buying power goes, the American public has a lot less over precious minerals than larger institutions like mega banks and foreign governments.
I doubt that there's a grand conspiracy on the part of talk show hosts to destroy the economy in order to cause gold prices to rise though. A fun theory though. There's just.....so many other ways to profit from economic troubles that are easier to pull of (for example, betting against your own sub prime mortgages like Goldman did). Then again, I will admit to having profited significantly off the long term shift in precious metal prices. Overall its just not that hard to predict that metal prices will continue to rise, whats difficult for the consumer to predict is short term movement.
Rug Burn Junky on 9/8/2011 at 12:52
There's nothing to prove, and given that lead block between your shoulders, you couldn't admit to it if it's staring at you in the face.
I don't give a shit about any particular Conservitard pundit to know their peculiar stance on any given issue, but I do know the coordinated, often disingenuous and usually outright dishonest, tropes and canards that get pushed by Fox News and talk radio in a macro sense. Without fail, you offer some variation on any of these analyses every single time. And even when they are clearly shown to be false, you continue to push the logic.
* Medicare is bankrupt.
* Social Security is bankrupt.
* Stimulus doesn't work.
* Obama tortures worse than Bush.
* The healthcare act is unconstitutional.
* JAred Loughner's really a left winger
* Sarah Palin's totes innocent about nasty rhetoric
In each and every instance, you offer up these same strawman, bullshit arguments that are making the rounds in Roger Ailes's wet dreams. And then you pretend "Oh, I hate those guys." Maybe so, but there's enough overlap that for you to seriously suggest you aren't merely a conservative-talking-point-bot is pretty fucking laughable.
That's the difference between me and you: I actually have a basis for my opinion, so it has some validity. You just throw stupid shit out there that's laughable on its face ("Hurrrr, you're just like Hannity") and try to dissemble and change the subject when other people come along and say how fucktarded it is.
CCCToad on 9/8/2011 at 19:24
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Medicare is bankrupt.
Social Security is bankrupt.
Sarah Palin's totes innocent about nasty rhetoric
Can you cite me saying those? All are trite, disproven rhetoric coming from a position of complete ignorance about how those programs work. Though I might point out that you yourself said that Medicare is a huge black hole.
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Obama tortures
the same as than Bush.
Fix'd and that one's since been proven right. Its since turned out that when you were told that extradition ended with him that you were told wrong.
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The healthcare act is unconstitutional.
Worth point'n out because of a caveat: The only iffy item I find in there that's is the individual mandate, which you described as having a "non-trivial chance of being overturned".
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Stimulus doesn't work.
A forest vs. the trees argument. I've never denied that the concept of Stimulus can work. I just think that the actual implementation was criminally mismanaged.
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JAred Loughner's really a left winger
Best answered with another quote
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"Forget right or left,Loughner's particular brand of government paranoia" fits in its own, "purely all-American" category. He reportedly thinks the U.S. faked the moon landing, the Federal Reserve is a Jewish plot, and 9/11 was a U.S. job. This "toxic jumble of left- and right-wing conspiracy theories" doesn't fit comfortably in either party, but it's also, unfortunately, not as fringy as before.
Rug Burn Junky on 9/8/2011 at 22:31
Toad, do you seriously think that just by douchily going point by point, you'll convince anyone that you're anything but a conservitard-talking-point-generator?
Honestly?
Look, if it means that much to you, I'll concede that a fair amount of your stupidity is self-generated. You're perfectly capable of saying stupid shit without merely repeating it, even if it's a remarkable coincidence that you so often do (ie. This very thread: Oh noes, we have lots of inflation).
Now just fucking shut up. Nobody gives a shit, and you're not improving your rather wretched image.
CCCToad on 10/8/2011 at 04:02
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Look,of your stupidity is self-generated. You're perfectly capable of saying stupid shit without merely repeating it, even if it's a remarkable coincidence that you so often do (ie. This very thread: Oh noes, we have lots of inflation).
And again, I've never said that the "official" rate of inflation is high.
Just that the official rate of inflation right now doesn't really mean anything on the consumer side their cost of living is continuing to rise dramatically. How could it? The two things blue collars spend most of their money on aren't counted.
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http://i.imgur.com/zA6sP.jpgSounds about right, but that cartoon still plays off the misconception that the public option was ever genuinly on the table to begin with.
