The_Raven on 20/2/2008 at 05:10
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Might be a little off-topic but I remember reading that Intel has used Valve's hardware survey as a reference.
Oh god! Last time I checked, those surveys were completely voluntary. Anyone who as taken a stats course will know why the data from such surveys are unreliable and unrepresentative of the true population. Now other companies are going to start using the same data. I don't like the sounds of that one bit.
Koki on 20/2/2008 at 07:47
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Might be a little off-topic but I remember reading that Intel has used Valve's hardware survey as a reference. That data certainly helps Valve pinpoint the sweetspot for the majority of gamers and it sounds like the PCGA is intending to compile data like that so developers know what the hardware status quo is.
Hardware advancement has always been pushed forward by PC gaming, more specifically PC FPS gaming. If they want to tell developers to stop making graphically intensive games, I have no idea what will happen.
But I think I'm getting ahead of myself, PCGA still only speaks in PR riddles. I'll have to wait and see what they actually
do. This might end up as a fizzle anyway.
And for the last time, Crysis runs fine.
Phatose on 20/2/2008 at 23:57
Kinda sucks that you need a subscription to something for XNA games to work on XBL. They don't require that for windows.
Plus, I really have to wonder why the made it C# only. Is it really that hard to extend the framework to include VB? Seriously, if you're aiming at amateur developers, I would expect you want to make it as friendly as possible, and VB, whatever else you might say about it, is 10 times friendlier then C#. A lot of that is due to VS, but still.
Scots Taffer on 21/2/2008 at 07:01
I don't really care what the PC Gaming Alliance is but it sounds like the sort of Fellowship-esque society whereupon signup you have to offer your allegiance in a "you can count on my mouse" "AND MY KEYBOARD" manner.
Yakoob on 21/2/2008 at 07:10
Intel with the power of quad core,
Microsoft, with the power of DRM,
Nvidia, with the power of "omg graphix"
AMD, with the power of "LOL shitty drivers!"
With the powers combined, I am Captain Gaming
*cue in theme music*
Lets also consider the acronyms the allegiance could take on based on comapny names. MINA? MANI ? I, MAN ?
Koki on 21/2/2008 at 07:25
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I don't really care what the PC Gaming Alliance is but it sounds like the sort of Fellowship-esque society whereupon signup you have to offer your allegiance in a "you can count on my mouse" "AND MY KEYBOARD" manner.
First thing which came to my mind was WoW to be honest.
LancerChronics on 21/2/2008 at 15:51
I really don't think this is necessary. Only reason this is happening is because in the last year or two we've had 3 console releases. Upon release the consoles were better than PC, and that got these people worried, imo.
But PC's and their games have the benefit of constantly improving, while consoles can only update when an expensive new version comes out every 5-10 years(and they have to wait that long cause no one wants to buy a new console every christmas, its called shelf-life). Therefore, in 1 or 2 years, PC will be better than consoles again.
Finally, mouse/keyboard > controller, well at least when the game isn't ported from a console. And pc has the benefit of the option of a controller/joystick. I have yet to see a console offer an easy to use keyboard/mouse with their product.
Butters8435 on 21/2/2008 at 21:09
Seems all about software vendors getting together with hardware vendors and agreeing on a mutually beneficial program for hardware and Operating system obsolescence for the latest games.
They are going to try to make more games that require windows vista and the latest graphics cards to run as soon as possible.
They are going to discontinue updating drivers for older versions of windows,or give less than optimal updates.
Then give you another little logo on the game and hardware box that means you need vista and the latest hardware to play it.
Then charge you a 2-10 dollar premium because the game was "certified by the gaming alliance".
Too bad it was not about improving games by making them more complex and less console like.Doing away with all the hackers,exploiters,cheaters in online gaming,or taking out the more obtrusive drm out of games.But then again that stuff costs money and doesn't make money.
fett on 21/2/2008 at 21:16
This is obviously another plot by the Illuminati to take control of the masses. :grr:
