Renault on 12/7/2015 at 16:35
Yes, this was driving me crazy this morning, experimenting after reading this thread. Apparently if you have the Dromed Toolkit installed, pressing Alt-E will disable the editorcam_from_game command. I've always used this command in my user.cfg, and I couldn't figure out why in the hell it wasn't working. So now, with the Toolkit...
Quote:
Alt+R returns to Edit Mode at the point you were in game mode.
Alt+E returns to Edit Mode at the point where you entered game mode (if persistent_player_pos is set or at the starting point if it is not).
No matter what I tried, I couldn't get synch_to_playcam to have any effect, so I'm not sure what's going on with that.
nightshifter on 12/7/2015 at 17:04
in the cmds folder there are two files that handle going back to editor mode:
EditMode.cmd and EditModeAtPlr.cmd.
they boh handle editorcam_from_game ???
AntiMatter_16 on 12/7/2015 at 18:59
The DromEd Basic toolkit is setup so that Alt+E will always return you to where you entered game mode, and Alt+R will always return you to edit mode from where you were last in game.
Both keys execute the command "edit_mode", but Alt+E unsets editorcam_from_game first, and Alt+R sets it first. Editorcam_from_game is a global setting which modifies the Edit_mode command. If each key didn't unset or set editorcam_from_game, they'd both do the same thing. I used two keys because there are times when one wants to return at where one was, and there are times where one wants to return to where one entered game mode. Trying to remember whether or not editorcam_from_game is set and changing it would be annoying.
I haven't yet made time to look at the new release of Newdark to decide what to change. It's a rather involved process to keep everything consistent and streamlined, not to mention trying out new features and deciding what would be useful to include in the menus and key bindings, so it's best to do it all at once over a few days.
[Edit]
Just took a look at Synch_to_playcam
When you enter game mode, the editor camera's position is saved. It is then restored when you exit game mode (assuming editorcam_from_game is not set - otherwise the edit mode camera position will use the last player coordinates from in game).
When you execute the "synch_to_playcam" command, it updates the saved editor camera position to where you are currently in game. If you exit game mode (and editorcam_from_game is unset), the editor camera position will be at the coordinates you executed "synch_to_playcam" in game.
Ricebug on 13/7/2015 at 13:43
Just to clarify things, when I install Thief 2 via TafferPatcher 2.1.6 beta, is Dromed Toolkit 1.13 part of that?
I had to ask, because installing just the toolkit made Dromed crash and burn.
AntiMatter_16 on 13/7/2015 at 19:47
I have no idea. I never use TafferPatcher. I'll have to look into it. Does it include Newdark DromEd? Or did you have to extract DromEd manually from the 1.23 Newdark release? DromEd basic works fine with 1.23 if both are installed manually (which is how I always do it.)
Curious that it crashed. I'm not sure why it would if installed correctly. Olddark versions of DromEd and DromEd2 are included in DromEd Basic, but not Newdark versions. Those would almost certainly crash if installed alongside Newdark.
[Edit]
Just downloaded and installed TafferPatcher, and the included DromEd Basic readme says it's 1.13.
[Edit2]
I installed DromEd basic 1.13 on top of TP, and it worked fine. Perhaps you forgot to copy the contents of .\Tools\Thief2 Newdark Dromed\ to the root directory? Consult the readme for detailed install instructions.
bbb on 14/7/2015 at 00:48
Quote Posted by nightshifter
@Ricebug... have a look in startup.cmd. a lot is set there. ( I presume you use the dromed toolkit)
about player position... try alt+R when going back to editor... did read about that new command somewhere. does the trick for me.
Nightshifter, thanks for the tip. Works perfectly. On to lighting my mission.
BBB
Ricebug on 14/7/2015 at 17:57
I just did a clean re-install, using TP, and everything works fine. There have been a few upgrades to New Dark, TP, and whatever else I've cobbled from the community resources. I've only dragged and dropped my stuff as each upgrade was released. It was due for a fresh install.
bbb on 15/7/2015 at 17:52
Now if I can just stop hitting ALT E, I will be all set. Old habits are hard to break. I have to keep thinking....ALT E, ALT E......
nightshifter on 15/7/2015 at 18:03
I wonder... You could perhaps change the 2 cmd files mentioned above???
