PigLick on 6/2/2014 at 10:14
but ambitous buzz is the best! dont knock drugs, they need to be more mainstream
you know how you feel from a 3 drink buzz? now imagine that only way more intensity
SubJeff on 6/2/2014 at 10:46
I'll tell you what'll give you a buzz - barely escaping with your life!
PigLick on 6/2/2014 at 10:55
ppfftt whole lotta people use heroin all the time, not many die. Totally overblown.
PigLick on 6/2/2014 at 10:56
i mean cmon, havent a lot of ppl here used drugs for recreation?
SubJeff on 6/2/2014 at 11:55
Yeah, people can get away with using heroin long term with little to no consequence, provided they get a good quality regular supply. It's one of the issues with criminalisation - a lot of the issues surround drug addiction (crime, ill health) are as a result of the criminalisation to a large degree.
But to say that the danger of heroin is overblown, especially with current laws and their effect on price and purity, is misleading.
PigLick on 6/2/2014 at 12:26
yeh fair enough
demagogue on 6/2/2014 at 13:42
I don't have any dogmatic view on the subject, and I think each drug should be looked at case by case. Personally, once in my life I want to try a hallucinogen like LSD, with a doctor & my family nearby and in a sense-deprivation tank since apparently being on it in that thing is supposed to be some kind of mad spiritual experience, and I want to treat it like a big deal, with a kind of reverence... And then just keep the memory of that one time.
But my general view is... even before I got to Asia, I believe the best kind of life (for me) is one where I don't go to extreme highs or lows but coast in the middle, zen or stoic like. So the idea of "more intensity" doesn't really appeal to me. Drinking and the occasional flavored tobacco hooka set me up just fine.
DDL on 6/2/2014 at 15:37
Yeah, a lot of David Nutt's stuff is a trifle cherrypicked. Alcohol is pretty bad less because it's inherently bad, and more because it's FUCKING EVERYWHERE.
Still, his reports are usually a fuckton better (i.e. based on actual data) than whatever craziness informs government policy, though.
SubJeff on 6/2/2014 at 16:15
If as many people used heroin as used alcohol we'd soon get the population down. The window of safety is much smaller.
dema - forget sensory deprivation tanks. You need to import a shamen from the Peruvian mountains to guide you, a troop of tabla players from India to rhythm your ass to the other side and a fuckton of massive chameleons to open the colour-lines to the godhead. Then you're cooking on spiritual experience GAS
