Iskai on 7/6/2001 at 16:10
In Star Trek: Elite Force (Raven) you play one Ensign Alex Munroe.
Now you can play as either a female or a male, because Alexander is male and it is also short for Alexandra (i think thats right).
It does require more vocal talent though, but if DX2 is going to be even bigger and more detailed than DX, it will more than likely move to DVD(for the speech etc).
I would at least like the option to run files from the disc(s), because of the amount of HDD that it takes up!
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Originally posted by Fanatix:
<STRONG>Yes, but it would also be something that would be really wierd. I don't think a game has EVER done this.
-Fanatix</STRONG>
TechImmortal on 7/6/2001 at 19:55
Fanatix is not saying that it is weird to choose your gender and play that gender for the entire game. He's saying that it's weird to do a sex-change in the middle of the game, as it appears BDB is suggesting in his second post.
Let's save that kind of thing for Sailor Moon and Leisure Suit Larry, OK? It does NOT belong in the look-and-feel of Deus Ex.
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or you could simply choose to leave JC at a headquarters or somewhere and play as a woman.
This was done very well in the Gabriel Knight games. You took turns playing both main characters - the male and the female.
[ June 07, 2001: Message edited by: TechImmortal ]
BackDoorBandit on 18/6/2001 at 14:38
Tech,
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but I haven't been in here for awhile, and I'm full of ideas today as it seems, not that you were necessarily expecting me to respond anyways :)
As for Gabriel Knight III, yes, it was done very well, this is one way they could work it. But don't rule out the other possibilites as well. Again, there are many ways to work it. The easiest being letting you choose upon start up whether you want a female character or a male character. For those that want to tough it out with the Male JC, then so be it, and for those of us that would rather play female characters, then we have out choice as well.
If you're saying that changing characters mid-stream would throw off the game, I don't believe it would. What's wrong with JC dying off, then bringing in another agent to take over the job that is more Augmented, or fitted even better with improved technologies? Again, there are many ways they could incorporate this into the game, it's a design aspect that would have to be hashed out on the design table. I see nothing wrong with it...Giants: Citizen Kabuto anyone? I absolutely loved that game and liked the way they traded off characters throughout. This was more like GK 3 though, but still fit in nicely into the game. Besides, didn't that MJ12 level totally catch you off guard? Were you really expecting to get caught and thrown into a holding cell? That was a nice change, how they took everyting from you and made you start from scratch in your inventory, and they could do something similar to mix up DX 2.
DX 2 will be deep, I'm sure of it, but after DX 2, will there be a DX 3? And if there is, will JC appear again? A good way of changing and bringing new life into sequels is with characters, I'm sure we all know this already, and I would enjoy it if it was a female character that I could control and be proud of...Cate Archer anyone?
Xacharia on 18/6/2001 at 20:13
I wouldn't like to change character in the middle of the game. It would detract from the roleplaying POV.
Fanatix on 18/6/2001 at 21:13
Yeah, the sex change in the middle of the game, I think, would take away from it. But, maybe I wouldn't mind it if you played a totally different character in Deus Ex 2, though still augmented, and she would be female, or you pick which gender of this new character. But I highly doubt this will happen. If I remember correctly, Ion Storm said you will still play JC Denton in Deus Ex 2, but I might be mistaken.
-Fanatix
rhalibus on 17/7/2001 at 22:34
BackDoorBandit: I agree with your desire for more empowered female primary characters, but after finishing The Longest Journey the main conclusion I came to (other than it was a great adventure game) was that April was a babe. :)
I really think that Warren and Co. will solve the female issue by just giving a choice at the beginning and then having you play JC Denton as if she were female all along (the fact that there were no romantic threads in the first game might make the disbelief easier to suspend).
One more thing--Instead of re-recording JC Dentons lines as a female, couldn't they have a small embedded program that takes JC's lines and raises the pitch an octave (the standard male/female pitch difference) but keeps the duration the same? Since JC's dialogue takes place only during the cut scenes and response-trees this wouldn't take up a lot of CPU time, and JC's monotone voice would probably help sell the change in gender. Heck, you can do this with SoundForge. Who knows, this procedure might save space, time, and money!
Thward on 19/7/2001 at 06:47
Yeah, it'd mean a lot more work, but I'd LOVE to play as a woman. And there's no reason, if you've got all the cut-scenes, voice-acting, and mirror-models to go both ways, to not have the ability to just switch over to the other gender at some point in the game if you so desire.