metal dawn on 26/7/2006 at 00:25

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Well, I was pretty certain about the "active betrayal" part, anyway.

Thanks for clarifying, Holywhippet.



This sounds very similar to a certain hammerite verse, only the final consequences are very different (the Priest seems to be willing give a second chance, whereas the Trickster is bitter and grudging), as if looking through different lenses.

I'm aware the severing of the hand is the traditional punishment for thieves, I just thought it was worth mentioning.

metal dawn on 26/7/2006 at 01:35

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Or maybe (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=lemuria) Lemuria, since this lost society is not seperate from land.

Do you mean otherworld equivalent?

Technically speaking, Atlantis has always been fictional, since the name and overall concept were supposedly first described by Plato in two of his works, Timaeus and Critias. It's a lot like the Philosopher's Stone*, really; a fantastic tale that evolved into modern society through cultural memes.

Not to say none of it couldn't have happened.

Lemuria, also known as Mu,The Motherland, Zu, Oz, and Pacifica is a legendary civilized lost continent that was said to connect with Indonesia, Madagascar, Southeast Asia, Africa and India (according to some; to others it was in the Pacific Ocean, where it is said to be linked with the Ring of Fire, Easter Island along the mysterious Idols, and the Moari). It was said to have existed prioir to and during the time of Atlantis. It appeared in the Lovecraftian Mythos at least once.

metal dawn on 27/7/2006 at 00:32

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Old scrolls from tyhe Lost city don't really say much.

What they I think they did say was that the old ruler, Va-Taran died and his ambitious son, Va-taraq assumed the throne. Whether the death was because of natural causes, disease or assassination is unclear. Perhaps it's possible to go as far as to say that Va-Taraq murdered his father to take the throne. There just isn't very much to go on.
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A thought strikes me...maybe Emperor Va-Taran was a chosen representative selected by Constantine to protect the crown. What if the "theft of the crown' was a metaphor for Va-Taraq murdering his father and usurping the thone? That's assuming you beieve the murder/assassination theory, of course.

metal dawn on 27/7/2006 at 01:38

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*SIGH!!*

Well, excuse me. I guess the thread can be closed now.

Seriously, it was a fucking hypothetical discussion. But I suppose if an expert like you says so it must be true.

These were THEORIES. Nobody was pushing anyone to believe anything.

Your assumtion is still a theory, even if it has harder evidence behind it.

PS: The "once again, children" line is old as sand and stupid as hell.

EDIT: I'm sorry. I think the heat is making me irritable.

Solabusca on 27/7/2006 at 05:42

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Sorry, I thought we were all aware enough to be on the same page. I mean, it's not like this hasn't been discussed in the past.

Reference 1:



Reference 2:

Take a look at the name of the statue object. I know you already know what it is, but for the sake of argument, let's do it, okay? What's the name?

That's right. Cthulhu. There is no "might be" about it.

So thank you for allowing me to present these two elements for you. When taken together, one might suggest that the folks at LGS had at least one Lovecraft fan amongst them, slipping a few references in to the game as an homage to the Mythos.

Did I say that this PROVES anything? No, I said this suggests something.

Much the same way that I stated that my own interpretation of the situation, based on my knowledge of the in-game material.

Interestingly enough, the back-to-back masks presented in this thread made me change my mind about the possible crossover between Precursor and Kurshok, something I'd previously found untenable.

And now I'm having Robert E. Howard/Conan flashbacks... the Precursor age being analogous to the Hyborian era (once an early part of the Cthulhu Mythos, as well!)

.j.