Gerhard Eichberger on 6/1/2014 at 16:58

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Gerhard Eichberger


The newer fan missions that are written for NewDark do not function on my computer. I have installed NewDark, but it seems that this doesn't help.

I have installed TafferPatcher_TMA_211_beta - this should include NewDark. Or am I wrong here?

With the newer fan-missions always the same happens: I can start the mission, but there is nothing to see, all is black. When I pull my sword, I see the sword, however when I move it it is like the characters the sword consists of stay on their Position and so I see fragments of the sword (hard to describe) on the screen. (It's an effect that is sometimes found with a door in Thief 1, when a Thief-Gold-Mission is played without the Thief-Gold-Patch when the door is of a type that is only present in Thief Gold and not in Thief 1 - in that case sometimes the Portion of the Screen where the door should be makes analog fragments.)

What could be the Problem?

The TafferPatcher file is called "TafferPatcher_TMA_212_beta.exe and it has a size of 212.148 KB. I have downloaded it from (http://www.ttlg.com) - that should be the correct version.

I use Thief 2 from the following package:
THIEF - THE COMPLETE COLLECTION: Thief Gold, Thief II (The Metal Age), Thief III (Deadly Shadows)
This Set is from Mastertronic, and all three games (the English Versions) are on one DVD:
(http://www.mastertronic.com)

Could this be the Problem?

On my older exemplare of Thief II (the German Version) the play-CD is broken, so I use now this package.

What could be the problem and how can I solve it?

When I install the TafferPatcher, all missions look much darker. However the NewDark-missions do not function, they don't show any differences whether the TafferPatcher is installed or not.


Gerhard

voodoo47 on 6/1/2014 at 17:18

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first, lets rule out hardware issues - get the (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141747) T2 demo, and check whether that works properly or not.

voodoo47 on 6/1/2014 at 19:08

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if that's the case, it's very safe to assume that something went wrong during the installation, and you resource files are incomplete, misplaced or broken. let's double check - after applying TafferPAtcher, the original game works fine, but the FMs don't, right? what method are you using to install nad play the FMs? have you tried to make a new clean install using the latest version of TafferPatcher?

darthsLair on 6/1/2014 at 20:23

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Sounds like you have a conflict in directories. You might consider keeping your original Thief 2 install, and Renaming your backup installations to say: T2,Thief2 Backup, ect. Your thief 2 install is trying to find resources in your other directories. Anything installed to Thief 2 uses the Install.cfg.
A good example of what I am saying is your unfrobbable doors ect. The engine is attempting to find gen.osm,which you need to function in game mode.

Get your directories situated first before you continue, as I suggested.

Depending on how old your system is, you will have to upgrade your run time environments that NewDark needs to function. Read the release notes found in the NewDark zip Once you get all of this ironed out, I would advise using Fm-Selector that came with NewDark. If you have Darkloader crashes, you will end up trying to clean up fm-resource messes in your directory.

voodoo47 on 6/1/2014 at 21:08

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I would just;

-make a new, clean install of T2
-patch it up with the latest TafferPatcher (enable FMselect shortcuts)
-run the FMselect shortcut to create the FMs folder
-extract the FM there, and play it via FMselect

after patching up with TafferPatcher, verify whether the orig game is working properly.