Brian_R170 on 11/11/2001 at 07:09
I got through the mission, but here are the problems I had:
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080"><br />1. Couldn't walk up the stairs in the kitchen. Had to run, otherwise Garrett gets stuck.
2. Attic key is impossible to find if you don't blackjack all of the guards. Somebody said he shows up after you rob the safe in the Library, but I had no idea and it took me awhile to find that key.
3. Originally, I couldn't find the attic key, so I blasted open the doors to the main bedrooms. This causes lots of sequence problems. The two servants just stand there, oblivious, and Garrett's comment "What the... I know I didn't do this." happens when you walk into the bathroom. I knew something was amuck, so I re-loaded from an older save.
4. I never found a key to the servants area. I had to blow the door to go in and use Bradey's room key, which is within the servant's area. I found three keys inside the area, but that didn't do me any good. I would have expected the woman in the kitchen to have it, but couldn't find it. Is there a key, or alternate way in? It's just not thief-like to blow doors.
5. On the south side of the mansion, there are two windows on each side of a bridge that look down into the war museum. I jumped up on one of these windows and went right through the railing and landed on the muesum floor. Sustaining injury, and of course, having no means of escape without the key.<br /> </font></div></blockquote>
[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: Nightwalker ]</p>
RiCh E on 11/11/2001 at 09:36
Nightbird, thankyou very much for the spoiler <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Unfortunately it came a little too late to do me any good L. After my last post I went back to this level and carried on blindly to the where abouts of the map+loot. And I have to admit I got a little bored (see screenshot lol)trying to find them. But I wasn't going to let this wonderful mission beat me. And as soon as I did find them, everything quickly fell into place and I completed the mission in next to no time with max loot objective and without taking any damage! Anyway thanks all, and a special thanks goes to everyone involved in making this quality mission. When the patch comes out I'll be playing this one again that's for sure.
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RiCh E on 11/11/2001 at 10:02
Ok all, this mission is VERY EASY to complete if you pay attention. For those people like myself, who couldn't get the 1st mission/intro to work. It basically explains the story and the vague whereabouts of the loot and map! This mission hinges on this! As soon as you find the map+loot which is here <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">Lookout for 3 statues in an outside area, and look behind them!</font></div></blockquote> then it all starts to happen, you can then find the key to the Library then to the attic etc etc, This mission is scripted so certain things happen when you complete other things! DON'T blow any doors open as this can stop you from finishing this mission, and you'll have to start again. Plus doing this, in my opinion will spoil the mission anyway. After all Garrett's a thief, not a demolition expert <img src="graemlins/sly.gif" border="0" alt="[Sly]" /> <br />hope this helps you out.
MsLedd on 11/11/2001 at 10:12
FYI folks, our dear Saturnine has put together a patch that addresses the major issues that people have been experiencing. Garrett MIA on the bridge, attic location noted on the map and others... But you taffers won't be blowing up any more doors and screwing up the order of things for yourselves anymore, this is a good thing, trust me. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
The patch file, and the full patched mission are available here <a href="http://thief1.math.uh.edu/thief/missions/" target="_blank">http://thief1.math.uh.edu/thief/missions/</a>
Go get it NOW!! <img src="graemlins/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="[Thumbs Up!]" />
borzwazie on 12/11/2001 at 08:16
I had a problem with this mission in that the attic key wouldn't open the damned attic. Had to blow the thing.
Spoiler:
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">When I enteredthe baby's room I did so by beating the door with a sword. Didn't find the key till later.</font></div></blockquote>
I found that while a stunning mission from the viewpoint of the cutscenes (WOW!) and some of the new features that I have not seen used before, there are a lot of bugs to work out of this mission.
<br /><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">I never could find the sapphire, had to cheat to end that mission. I found the way to raise the cage but got no further than that.</font></div></blockquote>
The scripting that was used in this game was too easily gotten around, and therefore broken. I did patch this game and start over, and still the scripting held me up. It's too bad, this is one of the most technically stunning fan mods I've ever seen. Saturnine, if you want help playtesting another patch for this mission, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. Besides, I want you to <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">show us all how Garret gets out of his ending "sticky situation." </font></div></blockquote> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
Psychotronic on 12/11/2001 at 13:54
I can't even get the thing to work at all! When I hit "play" in darkloader, I get an error message and T2 doesn't even start! I tried uninstalling everything and reinstalling, with the same results.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone have a potential solution to it???? <img src="graemlins/shake.gif" border="0" alt="[Tsk Tsk]" />
DarkRaven on 12/11/2001 at 15:17
If you don't try to move (ie jump walk run etc.) during the Act1 cam sequence (other than looking around you) It should run fine. Happened to me once, after escape: main menu: restart it worked fine for me without moving.
Also Spoiler answer needed for this question:<br /><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">I have done everything up to entering Saturnine's room and going into his attic crawlspace, but I cant find a lever, button or anything to do that will open the crypt, what am I missing??</font></div></blockquote>
'tronic, try redownloading the zip file again (sucks I know) but it may be corrupted.
[ November 12, 2001: Message edited by: DarkRaven ]<br />redownloading it, sucks that is, the FM itself is wonderful!! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
[ November 12, 2001: Message edited by: DarkRaven ]
Ahh skip the spoiler answer, I found it!
[ November 12, 2001: Message edited by: DarkRaven ]</p>
Keeper of Metal and Gold on 12/11/2001 at 18:59
Quote:
Originally posted by DarkRaven:<br /><strong><br />Also Spoiler answer needed for this question:<br /><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">I have done everything up to entering Saturnine's room and going into his attic crawlspace, but I cant find a lever, button or anything to do that will open the crypt, what am I missing??</font></div></blockquote><br /></strong><hr></blockquote>
This answer is for others who may have the same trouble
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">Up high on a beam near the big "treasure chest" is a lever - pull it and quickly look down through the window to see what it did <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> </font></div></blockquote>
Nightbird on 13/11/2001 at 08:09
HaHa that is funny Rich <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <br />Great shot!<br />I had guards stashed everywhere too, but I think probably everyone<br />did. This would be a real hard one to ghost.
I just didn't seem to have time to get all my guards together for<br />a little party the way you did. I was waaaaaaay to busy trying to find keys....... They are going to have one heck of a <br />hangover in the morning.
Nightbird
pbucko on 13/11/2001 at 11:54
In Saturines Room There is a passage behind <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">In Saturines Room There is a passage behind a dresser, how do you open it?</font></div></blockquote>
and
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">How do you get into the other half of the attic?</font></div></blockquote>
Thanks
This mission is cool!<br /><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><div style="background-color:#000080"><font color="#202080">I crapped my self in the Nursery</font></div></blockquote>