Volitions Advocate on 3/4/2009 at 05:03
I think you have to get the right model of PS3 for it to have any backwards compatibility at all.
I remember a couple years ago it was the 80 gig model everyone wanted because the others didn't have it. (not even the higher capacity ones)
Last time I was at wal mart looking at them they actually said on the box which models were compatible.
Although I don't remember specifically between PS2 or PSX games.
EvaUnit02 on 3/4/2009 at 06:45
Quote Posted by Volitions Advocate
I think you have to get the right model of PS3 for it to have any backwards compatibility at all.
...and you would be wrong. What part of "They never removed PS1 backwards compatibility from any model PS3." was difficult to understand?
Only PS2 backwards compatibility was removed, it was dependant on having actual PS2 hardware. The PS1 back compat in the PS3 had always been through 100% emulation.
The American and Japanese 60GB models had both the PS2's CPU and GPU, no emulation at all. Whilst the European 60GB and American 80GB had just the PS2's GPU, so partial emulation was involved here.
Fragony on 3/4/2009 at 06:52
Never knew that, just tried Alone in the Dark, it asks me to make an internal memorycard, but I don't get past naming it nothing happens, I fill in a name and it asks me to do it again, and agin, and again. Oddly enough I can also make an internal memory card for the ps2, maybe my ps3 can run ps2 that would be ace.
edit: eva is right, ps1 works. ps2 doesn't sadly. Makes you wonder, how hard can it be to make an emulator, I am no techie but if a midrange pc can do it why not the ps3?
242 on 3/4/2009 at 09:49
Quote Posted by Fragony
edit: eva is right, ps1 works. ps2 doesn't sadly. Makes you wonder, how hard can it be to make an emulator, I am no techie but if a midrange pc can do it why not the ps3?
ps3 has inefficient cpu (which is very fast only theoretically but not practically) and just 256Mb of main RAM.
Fragony on 3/4/2009 at 10:07
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ps3 has inefficient cpu (which is very fast only theoretically but not practically) and just 256Mb of main RAM.
no shit? How does that thing run these games then? For a layman like me it's bewildering that a nextgen console can't handle the past generation. Is it impossible or just very tricky? If the cpu can be used more efficiently for example? I thought the PS3 could do blinding speeds, confusing.
242 on 3/4/2009 at 11:01
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no shit? How does that thing run these games then? For a layman like me it's bewildering that a nextgen console can't handle the past generation. Is it impossible or just very tricky?
PS3 doesn't have critical PS2 hardware parts anymore, so PS2 has to be emulated via software only. Seeing that only fastest + overclocked PC CPUs (like C2D 4Ghz+ ) can emulate resource hungry PS2 games adequately, I doubt PS3 is able to achieve similar results. AFAIK, an ordinary C2D 3.2Ghz is more effective for usual applications than PS3's 3.2Ghz Cell CPU.
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I thought the PS3 could do blinding speeds, confusing.
Theoretically and in advertisements. It's very inconvenient for programming, at least I read devs mentioned that.
Sulphur on 3/4/2009 at 14:24
That's strange. Didn't the older, Emotion Engine-less 80gb PS3s already do backwards compatibility via software emulation?
From what I heard, the software emulation had issues with a fair amount of games, but there were still plenty that ran on it well enough.
EDIT: Just saw Eva's post about those models still having the PS2's GPU on-board, which makes sense. Any sources on that, Eva?
Matthew on 3/4/2009 at 14:30
I believe so, yes.
242 on 3/4/2009 at 14:54
Quote Posted by Sulphur
That's strange. Didn't the older, Emotion Engine-less 80gb PS3s already do backwards compatibility via software emulation?
From what I heard, the software emulation had issues with a fair amount of games, but there were still plenty that ran on it well enough.
EDIT: Just saw Eva's post about those models still having the PS2's GPU on-board, which makes sense.
yes, it's because those models had PS2's GPU at least, newer models don't have it.
Stitch on 3/4/2009 at 16:08
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Well god forbid I don't like a game that isn't fun.
Wait, what? Dude, I have a long history of attacking PS:T as overrated but even with me you aren't going to win this one.
