Thirith on 22/8/2009 at 16:11
Quote Posted by Papy
Age does change priority and interest in life. Most people my age I know who bought (or are thinking about buying) a PS3, chose that console because it can be used as a Blu-ray player. I guess an interesting statistic would be the age of PS3 buyers.
That's also the impression I've been getting, mostly from forums; Blu-ray is one of the main reasons why people get the PS3 over another console. If they're not all that interested in Blu-ray, they're simply more likely to get an Xbox360. The reasoning goes something like, "I want a Blu-ray player... and for not all that much more money, I can get one that also plays games. Hmm... Sounds like an okay deal!"
EvaUnit02 on 22/8/2009 at 16:53
I'm a massive film nerd, I had my mother bring back an American PS3 (which I paid for, BTW) when she was doing research at Babson College in Boston late 2008-early 2009, specifically so that I could playback Region A BDs like the Criterion Collection releases. The exclusive games too of course, but PS3 games are region free so that isn't an issue.
In fact I barely use my PS3 for BD playback, but the LG dual format BD/HD-DVD ROM drive in my PC, since I do most of my film watching at night with headphones on when most people are asleep.
I bought a Xbox in 2007, because of A. the exclusive games that I was interested in and B. HD-DVD playback. The first generation BDs were disasters compared to HD-DVD releases. Single-layer 25GB discs, with transfers encoded with the dated and bloated MPEG2 codec (outdated, inefficient compression) and more often than featuring massive uncompressed PCM tracks rather than lossless compression audio codecs like DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD.
When the format died, I bought up loads of dirt cheap discs in the fire-sales. Such excellent films like Mulholland Drive, La Haine, The Graduate, Leaving Las Vegas and Arizona Dream still haven't made their way to BD, AFAIK. To future proof myself, I bought the aformentioned dual format ROM drive and a heavily discounted Toshiba set-top player, which incidently doubles as one of the best upscaling DVD players known to man.
Aerothorn on 22/8/2009 at 17:09
Of course, for those of us without HDTVs (and, being in college, not getting one anytime soon), Blu-ray is kind of irrelevant.
CCCToad on 22/8/2009 at 17:43
Both can be hooked up to PC monitors.
swaaye on 23/8/2009 at 15:53
At this point a PC BDROM costs <$100, btw. I don't own either 360 or PS3. I have a Wii but meh on that. Was fun to mod though. I run a 2 year old PC with a E6300 @ 3.2, 4GB, 8800GTX attached to my 50" TV.
I did have a friend's 360 for about a year, while he was in China. I really hated the DVDROM noise during Mass Effect. And when the jackasses at Bioware decided to announce their PC version finally after denying its existence, I got that and it ran about 3x faster on the above PC. So I am not interested in the consoles at all. Most of the games are ported to PC and run much better there. I don't do multiplayer console games. I'm just not into multiplayer shooter gaming, unless it's like UT99 on a LAN.
Thirith on 24/8/2009 at 06:26
Quote Posted by swaaye
At this point a PC BDROM costs <$100, btw.
I'd imagine that most people still want a Blu-ray player they can put in the living room, and those who have their PC in the living room next to the TV are still in a minority.
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So I am not interested in the consoles at all. Most of the games are ported to PC and run much better there.
This would seem to be more true for the Xbox360 than for the PS3, though.
june gloom on 24/8/2009 at 09:21
Anyone who completely ignores consoles runs the risk of missing out on some of the greatest console exclusive games ever made, and others that are just plain better on console anyway (the latter point is made quite well by Condemned, the PC port of which having been utterly ignored and the sequel never even seeing the PC. That said, mouselook in Condemned 1 isn't that important, but holy fuck I wish I had it for 2.) To use another example, Dead Rising is one of the finest games I've played in years. It's truly sandboxy, it's full of zombies, and it manages to make some of the most annoying game tropes (timed missions, escort missions) actually fun. The best part is that there's really two stories- one if you decide to follow the main quest, and another, somewhat more disjointed one, if you focus on rescuing survivors.
To use a slightly older example, The Warriors for the PS2 (and also XBox1, except it's one of the few XB1 games they never got around to making compatible with the 360). Rockstar made a game adaptation of a cult movie that came out in freaking 1979 and fucking nailed it. It bleeds authenticism in every way and on top of that is essentially a much-needed evolution of the long-abandoned beat-em-up genre. The new Warriors game goming out on XBL has nothing to do with this game and is most certainly destined to be shit.
If you want to go older than that, how about Silent Hill 1 or Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? I realize that PS1 games are easily emulated now (how do you think I got hold of Megaman 8 after all these years?) but those games are true classics that never saw the light of day on the PC.
Of course, the further back you go the more subjective things get. Sure, there wasn't nearly as much overlap as there is now, but honestly this is the first generation I've seen since Genesis and SNES where it's worth getting all the systems of that particular generation. It really depends on the kind of games you're after, though. I want a PS3 first and foremost for MGS4- I think anyone who knows me could tell you that. But Uncharted looks good, Killzone 2 as well, and I wanna look into this Resistance thing. I have a 360 solely for Condemned 1/2 and Dead Rising. (Though XBL is quite nice- not much I'd personally buy but Megaman 9 is the best money I've spent all month.) I'm strongly considering a Wii for Fragile and Metroid Prime Trilogy. And I have a PC to play everything else.
Last generation, the XB1 would have completely lost if not for Halo, and even that got ported to PC eventually. All the games worth playing for it were either also on PC, PS2, or both. That seems to be more or less of an issue this generation, again depending on what you're looking for.
Thirith on 24/8/2009 at 09:41
To be honest, if it wasn't for the next game by Team ICO (and, perhaps, Brütal Legend) I'd be getting a region-free Blu-ray player rather than a PS3. However, it's the combination of these that made me decide for the latter... and now that I'll be getting a PS3, I'm not all too unhappy that I'll be able to play God of War 3 and Metal Gear Solid 4 and nicer versions of Rock Band with downloadable tracks etc. etc.
swaaye on 24/8/2009 at 18:41
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Anyone who completely ignores consoles runs the risk of missing out on some of the greatest console exclusive games ever made, and others that are just plain better on console anyway (the latter point is made quite well by Condemned, the PC port of which having been utterly ignored and the sequel never even seeing the PC.
I have most consoles prior to this generation. I also have the Wii, not that I see that as a worthwhile purchase. I don't really have any desire for the exclusives of 360 or PS3, and the number of ports to PC is higher than ever before. It seems that most people see if the other way (more ports than ever from PC to consoles), but I am starting to realize that it goes both ways heh. I played Dead Space on my PC with a 360 pad. I also played Condemned but I got bored with it after awhile. I thought that was fine KB/mouse style.
I did totally skip PS2 and most of PS1 so I'm sure I missed some good games there but I have a NES, SNES, N64, Wii (Cube), Xbox, and Dreamcast. My bro recently gave me his GBA and PSP lol. (Don't tell anyone but my Xbox has replaced the NES and SNES hardware)
To be frank, since N64 and PS1, mostly it's felt like we've just had evolutions and copies. My fav generation is probably PS1 and N64 because of how big a change it was. I have played and enjoyed most of the big games (excluding PS2 exclusives), but nothing sticks in my head more than games from the late '90s like Gran Turismo, Top Gear Rally, Waverace64, Super Mario 64, Turok 1, Goldeneye, Pilotwings64 and Ocarina of Time. Lots of N64 stuff.
I'm not into Japanese style games.
Been a PC gamer since the '80s. That is by far the most memorable platform for me.
swaaye on 24/8/2009 at 18:57
Quote Posted by Thirith
I'd imagine that most people still want a Blu-ray player they can put in the living room, and those who have their PC in the living room next to the TV are still in a minority.
Undoubtedly. :) Set top BD players are getting cheaper every day too though.