Azaran on 19/11/2012 at 07:20
One of the positive aspects of that site is also that it might help counter cyber bullying:this has become a plague in recent years (sometimes leading to suicide by the victims, and in most cases violence against them by people who post this kind of stuff and their supporters). Some of the posts in there just seem like immature venting and probably shouldn't belong on that site, but most of it is downright sick. If you post stuff like this online, I think you should be exposed:
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http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8955/kaylabrooke3.jpgAnd moreover, it's not like the site author hacked into their pc's to dig up their secret racist messages: all of this stuff was posted
publicly online; by doing this, you're agreeing (albeit tacitly) to whatever repercussions may come as a result. Much like if you go out on a public street and start spouting racial slurs, you shouldn't be surprised if you get in trouble for it.
Vasquez on 19/11/2012 at 07:35
Quote Posted by Azaran
Much like if you go out on a public street and start spouting racial slurs, you shouldn't be surprised if you get in trouble for it.
Yeah, but as it's illegal to take law in your own hands and beat the crap out that guy on the street, becoming a "cybercop" handing out layman's "justice" is not right. Hatemongering is a crime, and even though the police obviously don't have resources to hunt down everybody who shouts NIGGER on the internet, it's not okay break laws there - whichever side you're on.
Also, if you shout on the streets, there's somewhat small chance people mistaking about it actually being you.
Melan on 19/11/2012 at 07:37
I have known people who were fired/threatened to be fired from university teaching positions for allegedly anti-semitic remarks they had made online. The accusations were false flags (one case of poorly worded sarcasm, one case of speaking ill of influential public intellectuals), but the scarlet letter and the ensuing hysteria / letter-writing campaign were enough to make them stick, and cause real damage in an academic environment. That has significantly influenced my views on this issue -- in both cases, the "social justice" brigade seemed to consist of significantly more shitty people than the accused, and the punishment they were calling for (barred from all teaching positions forever, or I hope they never find a job ever again being suggested in non-ironic ways) way-way out of line with any real or perceived offence.
Therefore, I am strongly opposed to Internet vigilantism of any kind.
SubJeff on 19/11/2012 at 08:15
Like so many things the idea is better than the reality.
The reality is a lot of people who will end up being wrongly accused because of misunderstandings, but there is a lot of content out there that is pretty obviously racist for real. They should just go to Stormfront, that's all the material for a generation right there.
demagogue on 19/11/2012 at 09:40
Speaking of Tumblr, half of internet culture, the half that is growing, is the glorification of self-shame anyway. Most of the thrill of online chat is waiting for someone to cross the line, to either take pride in shocking even the cynics or (if the popularity of stuff like this is any indication) even for those vicariously pivoting their head and muttering "Oh no she di'in't"... The "appalled" population is getting their shock thrills by it just like the tainted. This is just gas to the fire.
Especially once one has been "branded", all bets are off. The next scene involves porn photography with a life sized homemade furry doll made out of pillows, stuffed socks, and lifelike bones meticulously carved out of wood, and life is now an adventure into how deep the "irredeemable" can stew themselves into the grimy taint pit of bottomless self-pity.
Xorak on 19/11/2012 at 10:57
Let's stop bullies by bullying them, thus making it acceptable to bully people, while crying that our children are being bullied.
To be honest, I think it's a pretty pathetic blog. The 'racists' are just dumb kids posting dumb things. But why don't they also include tweets of black people posting racist things? At least show the truth if they're trying to shame racists. Oh, but then we wouldn't feel the same level of white guilt.
Independent Thief on 19/11/2012 at 11:47
Good Lord, what a stupid website-unless someone is found to be making threats of violence or is actually interfering with someone's legal rights, who cares what they say on their blogs? People have a right to speak-even if it's stupid. I also don't like the fact the website is dropping docs right and left-that could result in somebody getting hurt-and it would be even worse if it turned out to be an innocent person who got setup or misidentified.:grr:
Volitions Advocate on 19/11/2012 at 14:18
Simple question in my mind....
What goes does this do? I can't see it doing any good at all. Only more bad. Xorak hit it on the nose. Useless.
Kolya on 20/11/2012 at 09:49
Yes, there are a lot of differences between the US and Europe. Racism isn't one of them though. And nationality doesn't replace it for anyone whose heritage is visibly not from the same country.
Stitch on 20/11/2012 at 17:02
True, we're running low on internet today and should probably divert power to the Gaza strip thread.
