june gloom on 14/2/2009 at 00:56
I didn't. But my point still stands.
inselaffe on 14/2/2009 at 03:00
Not that your point means anything then :S Valve steam and punkbuster games are still more that capable of having cheats on them sadly. It's like piracy - if people want it enough they will find a way to make it happen.
Trance on 14/2/2009 at 03:22
Except that PB and VAC can be updated to catch new hacks. It's a lot harder to consistently thwart those two than your average DRM, and so the vast majority of the time you can play a game without encountering cheaters.
june gloom on 14/2/2009 at 05:04
I was going to make fun of Dan Knott for being an ignorant knob but Trance saved me the trouble.
inselaffe on 14/2/2009 at 10:46
That's very ironic.
Arrogance and belief that anyone whose views are different to your own are plainly wrong have always been your strong points.
And updates will do little to stop people with private hacks - if they have something that looks natural enough and nobody suspects them (or better still for them, they get respected within the community) then there is very little chance of them getting caught. Even if for some reason they were to get caught by a lucky update, they could claim it a false positive and would most likely be believed if a high member of a community.
EvaUnit02 on 14/2/2009 at 11:03
Quote Posted by Dan Knott
That's very ironic.
Are you done?
Go buy a Xbox and a copy of Halo 3 then, it's more hack proof than any PC game.
june gloom on 14/2/2009 at 11:17
Quote Posted by Dan Knott
Arrogance and belief that anyone whose views are different to your own are plainly wrong have always been your strong points.
gasp! at
TTLG!
noooooooo...
Jason Moyer on 14/2/2009 at 11:36
Quote Posted by Trance
Except that PB and VAC can be updated to catch new hacks. It's a lot harder to consistently thwart those two than your average DRM, and so the vast majority of the time you can play a game without encountering cheaters.
I just fired up TF2 using a speedhack that I've seen people using for over a year and it still isn't detected, amazingly.
ATM, I think I have exactly one multiplayer game that is hack-free, and that's because it uses a windows service + online verification to check for file and live variable alterations.
june gloom on 14/2/2009 at 20:14
Jason, expect to see yourself banned from Source engine games within the month. That's how VAC2 works- when hacks are detected, it could be anywhere from a few days to a few weeks before the cheater is permabanned.
