Maxrebo6 on 13/4/2014 at 08:08
In my quest play most if not all fan missions I have recently did 4 really awesome fan missions in a row.But the 2 next in line I found to be very weird to the point where I have yet to finish them because I am feeling confused on what the mission intends me to do.I will list the name of the mission and issues below.
The Thieves Quarter
The guards using the Constantine Guard models cannot be KOed I know this from personal experience and reading the thread for mission.This is a problem because the guards can pretty sensitive and there a points in the mission where you have no choice but to be caught.
Am I really just supposed to kill everyone? Since there is no no-kill objective.
I don't know if this over sensitivity is due to me using a New Dark install if it is I guess I will just skip it because I really don't wanna go through the hassle of making a classic installation of the game.
Guards that have been problems include the guy that kills your contact in the begging I had a random archer appear in that area as well. That causes problem with the "Watch station across from the jail with the unpickable door that you need to smash which alerts a guard on the inside.The guard at the blind corner and the guard in one of the towers in what I think is Ramirez's Warehouse loses his crap when I shoot a rope arrow into beam in order to sneak in there.
Treachery
I have no clue what to do you have only 200 gold for supplies so you can't buy much and for all appearance the only entrance into the building is the front door which has a guard posted out front the door is brightly lit so you can't sneak up to blackjack him. If you somehow get past him it leads into a hallway with two guards at the other end guarding the only other door neither of whom can you get close enough to KO before they see you. Am I intended to kill these guards? Which I never do.
I don't know if this is a case of the missions not being working well with Newdark or me just not figuring out how the mission author intends me to get around or past these obstacles.Can any of you give me some advice on what do either in regards to these missions or whether I am better off just skipping them and moving on.Its a real shame since I was doing really good in the last four missions.
I've been making a list of missions yet to do listed in the order they appear on Thiefmissions.com,Missions completed with special markers for my favorites and list of mission I won't play a second time or ones I didn't finish or skipped because I didn't care for it or it got really bad reviews or I finished but wouldn't replay or has supeior version for Thief Gold or 2.I quite far into the missions for TDP.
yxlplig on 13/4/2014 at 09:40
Quote Posted by Maxrebo6
The Thieves Quarter
My experience was pretty similar, I don't think there is anything you can do about any of those things. I think you're expected to kill some AI because that mission has respawns. The guy at the beginning is supposed to get killed however - it's mentioned in the briefing in the readme.
Also, this was one of three missions I had to use OldDark for because it crashes every time I pick up a certain item in the cathedral.
I don't know what the intention was, but when I played Treachery, I was able to walk past the guards that you can't sneak past and they didn't seem to care that I was there.
Maxrebo6 on 13/4/2014 at 18:19
I guess I am just gonna have to skip,Thieves Quarter because of that bug.I know the guy at the beginning is meant to die,I meant the guy who murders him who is a constantine guard model.I will have to try that in Treachery again to see if the guards don't lose their crap.
New Info
I just retried Treachery and that guard and the next two both at first seem to care but then they aggro start coming after with the intent to kill.I don't know if I am doing this mission wrong or its because of incompatibilities that arise with New Dark. I guess I will just have to pass up both of these and maybe later I will go and make a non new dark install or someone can give me more insight either whats going on or what I am supposed do because right now I have no clue.
One other quick question,does someone have a list of all FM's not listed on Thiefmissions?
LostCitizen on 15/4/2014 at 07:42
Quote Posted by Maxrebo6
One other quick question,does someone have a list of all FM's not listed on Thiefmissions?
The two links below have some missions, not listed on thiefmissions.com. The first one is a large one, containing the missions also from 1999, but it has not been updated for 2 months. While the second link has been updated and there are missions from 2014 and 2013. The majority of missions are also listed on thiefmissions.com, but it helps when you search for some campaign missions, missing on thiefmissions.com (The Library, etc.).
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http://www.ttlg.de/de/download/navigation/fm-download.php)
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http://www.gnartsch.de/Thief-FM/Thief_updates.shtml)
Maxrebo6 on 16/4/2014 at 20:55
Thanks for the info.I got get around to making a seperate pre newdark install for both Thief 1 and 2.I just did Varyx Obelisk I loved the mission and I doing Mystery Man which is really good and really hard.