poison_the_well on 30/7/2007 at 20:51
i jut dont see how posting thief 1 or 2 or gold sounds is agisnt the law
since the dromed was given out to use and as long as he is not making money on it
now if it was thief 3 i could see this post making sence
and even the maker of post said he just posted them,leaving me to belive it is free to get and as far as credit goes only a noob would not know what thief sounds were
so please keep posting and draging this out to try to make me look bad,but in the end that guy will not be in any trouble since he did not break the law
there are people who post full games on things like limewire/etc and sites
and some poor guy who puts some sounds up is up for debate to turn in,wow shocking
phide on 30/7/2007 at 21:04
Quote Posted by poison_the_well
i jut dont see how posting thief 1 or 2 or gold sounds is agisnt the law
Consult a copyright attorney. You don't believe a word anyone says, but you aren't willing to consult an attorney as to the legality of it. What exactly are you looking for? If you're looking for someone to agree with you, go visit droppedoutoflawschool.com or iwillagreewithyouonanytopicforthirtydollars.com.
This has been explained already. If you want confirmation, consult a copyright law professional.
Quote Posted by poison_the_well
there are people who post full games on things like limewire/etc and sites and some poor guy who puts some sounds up is up for debate to turn in,wow shocking
A lesser crime is not a crime because greater crimes exist? Very amusing logic, my friend.
poison_the_well on 30/7/2007 at 21:11
so i guess i should warn all the thief fm makers who do the same thing and dont give credit? cause i dont want anyone to get in trouble just for trying to make a fm weather using sounds or grapics,just so people like me can enjoy them,cause i dont want anyone snitching on them
phide on 30/7/2007 at 21:14
Are FM makers bundling original game assets? No. The operation of the FM requires a full retail copy of the respective game to function.
Is this Oblivion mod author bundling original game assets? Yes. The operation of the mod does not require of a full retail copy of Thief/Thief Gold/Thief 2, although it includes those assets without express permission.
Do you understand the distinction?
poison_the_well on 30/7/2007 at 21:38
it was posted they were sound replacements,so what the hell you talking about
we not talking vital thief files to run game
they sound files
and i would think the reason he posted them was for people to use in fan mission,which in that case they would need the retail game to play it
you make it sounds like this guy is making a cd and selling it using thief music
New Horizon on 30/7/2007 at 21:41
Quote Posted by poison_the_well
so i guess i should warn all the thief fm makers who do the same thing and dont give credit? cause i dont want anyone to get in trouble just for trying to make a fm weather using sounds or grapics,just so people like me can enjoy them,cause i dont want anyone snitching on them
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're on here complaining about everyone belittling you, but you're aggravating it yourself with your combative nature.
The legalities and logistics have been made perfectly clear.
poison_the_well on 30/7/2007 at 21:45
basicly you did not understand what i said,so you went off on some tangent claiming i dont know hwat i am talking about
if you dont understand what i ment then dont make a comment trying to degrade me to make yourself look good when in fact you could not even answner my question
Solabusca on 30/7/2007 at 21:45
Quote Posted by New Horizon
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're on here complaining about everyone belittling you, but you're aggravating it yourself with your combative nature.
The legalities and logistics have been made perfectly clear.
You're correct, sir. Things have been made very clear. Seems that combativeness is not just the order of the day, but perhaps also the entire
raison d'être of this poster.
.j.
phide on 30/7/2007 at 21:53
Do you understand what an "asset" is? Broadly defined, an asset is an item, though in this context, an asset is a piece of the game. It could be a texture, a model, a sound file, a map -- many things, in fact. An "original game asset" is one of these items that is included with the original game. The asset exists on the retail CD in some form.
If FM authors are including alternate, non-copyright, royalty-free or licensed audio with their FMs, that's fine. If they're using copyrighted material without express permission of the original owner, that's not fine. If you want to report the individuals who have done the latter (if there are any), have at it. Nobody here is stopping you.
As I said previously, if you want confirmation on anything others have said previously, consult an attorney. If you want to report FM authors who have bundled copyrighted assets, go ahead and do that too. But if someone decides to report the guy who made this Oblivion mod, don't get pissy about it.
poison_the_well on 30/7/2007 at 21:54
and the best part about posting on boards when not being a regular is that they do the classic ohh yeah i agree with you,so they know who there buddies are to back them up lol
people are so fake in todays world