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Ricebug on 19/2/2014 at 00:43

All of my RBs touch each other. None are inside of any other, yet I keep getting this crap in my monolog:

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Building rooms...
116 rooms, 324 portals, 2.7931034 average portals per room
Checking rooms...
WARNING: room brush (br_id 452) center inside another room brush (br_id 682)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 455) center inside another room brush (br_id 682)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 680) center inside another room brush (br_id 690)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 682) center inside another room brush (br_id 452)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 690) center inside another room brush (br_id 680)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 804) center inside another room brush (br_id 690)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 808) center inside another room brush (br_id 938)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 808) center inside another room brush (br_id 830)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 812) center inside another room brush (br_id 452)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 830) center inside another room brush (br_id 938)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 831) center inside another room brush (br_id 939)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 832) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 833) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 898) center inside another room brush (br_id 680)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 937) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 938) center inside another room brush (br_id 830)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 939) center inside another room brush (br_id 831)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 943) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 944) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1066) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1072) center inside another room brush (br_id 456)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1152) center inside another room brush (br_id 837)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1170) center inside another room brush (br_id 938)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1170) center inside another room brush (br_id 830)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1239) center inside another room brush (br_id 938)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1240) center inside another room brush (br_id 939)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1241) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
WARNING: room brush (br_id 1242) center inside another room brush (br_id 685)
Room brushes with centers inside other room brushes have been hilighted.

I even deleted all the RBs and carefully added them back in. Same warnings keep appearing.

Here's the kicker: none of these RBs even exist in the level. I've filtered out everything, tabbed through the entire lot, and the numbers don't go past 300.

Xorak on 19/2/2014 at 01:15

Curious. Any chance of sending it over so I can take a peek?

LarryG on 19/2/2014 at 01:32

Take a closer look. I think you are not seeing that the indicated room brush centers are within another room brush. That warning is for real. I have never known it to be wrong. Try filtering only on room brushes, and then look at the highlighted brushes after you build room database. The bad rooms will be highlighted. You can also use the indicated brush ids to figure it out. It looks like a few brushes might be larger than you think they are (for example br_id 685 has several other room brush centers inside it.) Try the command brush_centers n [draw brush centers (1=cur brush, 2=all, 0=disabled, -1=cycle modes)] to help you visualize it.

Ricebug on 19/2/2014 at 11:54

I sent Xorak a link so a second pair of eyes...errr, I have one eye...so, three eyes...ahhh, never mind.

There are a total of 219 RBs. However, there are 958 terrain brushes. So the br_id listed below would seem to reflect the terrain brushes, not the room brushes. I don't know; I'm no Dromed expert.

During Full Processing, there are 38 rooms "with portal center outside the world." What's curious, is that if I compile the map with ONLY RBs filtered true, that number jumps to 799. This is because every suspect is tagged multiple times. Example:

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756. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
757. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
758. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
759. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
760. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
761. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
762. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
763. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
764. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
765. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
766. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
767. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
768. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)
769. WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id 935)

LarryG on 19/2/2014 at 13:34

That's a different warning: "WARNING: room brush with portal center outside the world (br_id nnnn)" is not the same warning as "WARNING: room brush (br_id nnnn) center inside another room brush (br_id mmmm)". Both situations should be corrected, but they are different. Room brushes cannot be centered in solid. Don't re-portalize with only room brushes filtered. Just rebuild the room db. Or filter to just the room brushes AFTER optimizing.

Note: Use brush_select nnnn with the brush ids given to select the room brush indicated. Or just pick the highlighted ones.

Yandros on 19/2/2014 at 17:04

If you've optimized/portalized a Me-Only'd area brush and then try to build rooms with all of them visible, you'll get a ton of those since lots of RBs are in solid. If that's the case, you should select an area brush, Show All, Optimize, then build rooms and see if they go away.

Ricebug on 20/2/2014 at 00:12

Xorak fixed the mission. Had a couple of duplicate RBs hiding in there. How THAT happened, I'll not know. I wish Le Corbeau would have put a 'dumbass' filter in there somewhere.

As far as compiling with everything but RBs filtered, that was just done for academic reasons.