smithpd on 24/1/2007 at 05:44
Quote Posted by ffox
Have you tried the fog in other FMs? I haven't played Swamped, but the fog in Turn of the Tide looks good to me on my ATI.
Could it be something to do with the way the authors set the fog up?
No I haven't tried Turn of the Tide. Last night I was looking for your post in which you previously mentioned that mission, but I coudn't find it. Oh well. It is too late now, unfortunately. The X1650XT is off to RMA land. Yes, fog could be author dependent. I have seem some strange fog effects with Nvidia, too, which were obviously different types of implementation. It could be that one type of implementation looks good in Nvidia and another in ATI, and what you get depends on what the author sees in his development machine.
As for the sky, I think that is author dependent, too. I checked Sly Fox's Unfinished Business, which has an eerie red sky, and it looked almost exactly the same, so far as I could tell.
I haven't ruled out ATI for the future. Just for the present. I had a time window for the return, and I had to do it. Maybe some of the annoyances that bothered me will be fixed. Maybe Nvidia will be out of the question when I next build a computer. Who knows? I'll be watching with interest. I hope to see more A-B comparisons. I'd like to see an A-B comparison of the transparency effect, for example.
udtre on 29/10/2010 at 13:35
Quote Posted by smithpd
I just got a HIS Radeon X1650 XT because Nvidia no longer supports Thief in its latest offereings, and, besides, I got tired of Nvidia's bad dark textures, including bad sky, which I have endured for two years or so. I decided to get a part that will provide some life insurance for Thief. X1650 XT is a brand new model that competes with Nvidia's 7600 GT.
Anyway, the card works fine with the exception of one little quirk. When you escape to desktop in T1 or T2 (Pause key) and then return to the game (click icon on task bar) the gamma is reset to a default value = the value you set for 3-D games in the Catalyst Control Center. It can be restored to where you last left it (not the default value) by hitting + and - keys or by loading a save.
I have also tried the ATI Tray Tools utility. It can save color schemes for each game's EXE. Seems nice at first, but it works only when the game is first invoked. If you escape to desktop and come back, then it ignores both the Catalyst setting (above) and the ATT setting and leaves you totally in the dark. :(
I can't use the Rage3DTweak utility because it does not have a version that is consistent with my driver, so it won't install as a plugin.
Has anyone else experienced this gamma issue with other Radeons or ATI drivers? Is there a permanent fix for it? I can't try new drivers because ATI does not yet have Windows 2000 drivers for the 1650 series on their web site. Only XP. I don't know if it matters.
Any ideas?
Press cntrl + alt + del
Press ESC to cancel the menu
Gamma resets back
Spread the word & take care
ZylonBane on 30/10/2010 at 01:59
REPORTED.
negativeliberty on 30/10/2010 at 14:00
I use PowerStrip to perma-force a correct LUT (colour lookup table) for my LCD. So if you've got your .icm or .icc file load it up in WinColor (or your preferred gamma loader tool), go into PowerStrip's colour configuration, check the box next to "Apply adjustments to non-linear ramp", click on the little camera icon on the right of the window ((
http://image.bayimg.com/daaegaadd.jpg) pic) and click "Capture". Now save this profile and voila (and you can also set a hotkey for it), your custom calibrated gamma settings will be enforced even in games.