ZylonBane on 30/4/2011 at 13:55
Early 3D games were mostly various types of sims, so yes, they were complex. Just look at every 3D game Looking Glass did prior to Thief-- Ultima Underworld, Terra Nova, Flight Unlimited, System Shock... all enormously more complex than Thief.
Scott Weiland on 30/4/2011 at 15:14
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Early 3D games were mostly various types of sims, so yes, they were complex. Just look at every 3D game Looking Glass did prior to Thief-- Ultima Underworld, Terra Nova, Flight Unlimited, System Shock... all enormously more complex than Thief.
They were partly 3d and all the complex stuff was 2d.
Boxsmith on 30/4/2011 at 15:21
man what
Sulphur on 30/4/2011 at 15:49
What do you mean all the complex stuff was 3D? UU had 3D barrels, the cornerstone of every FPS ever made, long before the FPS even became a household name. Doom came long a good while after and had 2D barrels, and so did everything else until Descent and Quake. Though, um, I don't remember if Descent had barrels. Did it?
Wait, what I meant to say is this: what the fuck are you even on about, Scott, you trolling halfwit? Sprites vs. polygons isn't even what people are talking about here.
Scott Weiland on 30/4/2011 at 16:29
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you trolling halfwit.
I have a master's degree and I'm a rockstar, you nobody. So you're saying that pre Thief and even pre Doom 3d games had more complex design than Thief - that's the biggest bullsh!t I have read this week, congratulations.
Sulphur on 30/4/2011 at 16:38
You're a puerile, ignorant walking wankathon that thinks quoting a master's degree on the internet means anything, so I guess you've got the rockstar bit down pat. :thumb:
And System Shock and UU did have more complex design than Doom, you airhead.
Scott Weiland on 30/4/2011 at 17:21
Quote Posted by Sulphur
You think quoting a master's degree on the internet means anything
And you obviously don't have a sense of humor. I don't have a master's degree btw
Quote Posted by Sulphur
And System Shock and UU did have more complex design than Doom
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Quote Posted by Scott Weiland
They were partly 3d and all the complex stuff was 2d.
Sulphur on 30/4/2011 at 17:27
I gave up discussing the point a while ago because you've clearly missed it. Your argument is asinine, you have no idea what ZB was talking about, have an extremely limited grasp on the functionality of game design and game engines and the history of them, and I've got better things to do than explain all of this to you. Continue stewing in your obliviousness.
Koki on 30/4/2011 at 17:45
Quote Posted by Boxsmith
man what
arrays baby
And dude, what is that article even supposed to be about? Is it cut or is it just Edge being Edge again?
ZylonBane on 30/4/2011 at 19:01
Quote Posted by Scott Weiland
They were partly 3d and all the complex stuff was 2d.
Everyone but you is talking about the complexity of
the gameplay, not the renderer.
