Jason Moyer on 13/10/2010 at 18:04
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Hexen 1 can kiss my ass. And Quake 4 was
great.
Hexen 1 was the first great online co-op game, imho.
Raven on 13/10/2010 at 18:09
I'm not dead!
as a secondary point: I enjoyed the games from raven.
lost_soul on 13/10/2010 at 18:37
Hexen was the first FPS game I played that had spooky ambiance. No, DooM didn't count because it was not a scary game. It was an action game, pure and simple. Hexen had all kinds of eerie sounds and generally a very dark world. It was sort of a spiritual successor to Quake 1.
Harvester on 13/10/2010 at 23:27
You mean predecessor, right? Since Hexen came before Quake?
Hexen is my favorite Raven game by far, followed by Elite Force (Elite Force 2 was made by Ritual, IIRC). I never cared for Heretic (it's Hexen minus all the atmosphere, ambiance and cool puzzles) and Soldier of Fortune.
Hexen was a bit limited in weapon and enemy selection but IMO it made it up with extremely cool puzzles, excellent level design and tons of atmosphere. It was possible to get stumped for a while or not know what a particular switch does at first glance (some people are overreacting though, it wasn't that hard), but I liked that it was not a corridor shooter, the levels were sprawling but not too difficult to find your way around, remember that you had a map. I loved figuring out all the switches and puzzles by myself, and finding all the nooks and crannies, I even found all the secret levels. I'd like to play it again some time in the future with a modern source port.
Sulphur on 13/10/2010 at 23:31
Yeah, I was having a hard time trying to wrap the term spiritual successor around my head for a game that came out a couple months before the game it was succeeding.
swaaye on 20/10/2010 at 21:59
Heretic and Hexen were brainchilds of Raven + John Romero. ;) id and Raven were both in Madison, WI at the time and met up. I was at Raven once and asked them if they were ever going to do more fantasy shooters like those and they just looked wistfully at me because it was probably all up to Activision. I remember seeing that all of the computers looked to have "Property of Activision" badges on them. You could tell who was the bitch in this relationship.
I think JK2 was Raven's last game that really did it for me. Quake 4 felt kinda like a new Elite Force game in some ways. I'm not an X-Men fan so didn't do those games. And I skipped the latest Wolfenstein because I just wasn't looking for that....
It seemed to me that Singularity never had any hype going for it.