Jason Moyer on 7/7/2013 at 12:09
KotoR is miles better than NWN. I mean, aside from the story which was basically copy/pasted. KotoR II, even without the restoration mod, is one of the greatest games ever made.
Action RPG's of the gamepad-hack-and-slash variety which I could not recommend enough: Ys Origin, Ys Oath In Felghana, and Bastion (which is basically like an easier version of the newer Ys games). Actually, Dungeon Siege III is similar, but everyone hated it for being like Ys instead of Diablow-on-automatic like the first 2 (shitty) games. The first Darksiders was also fantastic. And while it's not very RPG-ish, aside from upgrading combos or whatever, I'd also recommend Ninja Blade (i.e. From Software's best game) for its pure ridiculousness.
Malleus on 7/7/2013 at 13:25
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Dark Souls
I've been toying with the thought myself, but ... it's a GfWL game, right? Does this thing absolutely need GfWL? I mean, can it be played in offline mode? Can it be patched outside of GfWL?
faetal on 7/7/2013 at 18:30
The GFWL implementation in DS isn't too much of a pain. Recommend playing it online.
june gloom on 7/7/2013 at 18:39
More to the point, you'll be glad you have it. It does a lot for atmosphere.
Maxmillion on 7/7/2013 at 19:36
Just wanted to chime in and recommend a good series from Jeff Vogel, the guy behind Spiderweb software.
The series is called Geneforge, and its a fantasy-sci fi pastiche, a style I think should be done more often. Its isometric 2d, and involves a single player character who can summon various monsters and minions to help them, depending on the character class. Each game takes at least 20 hours to finish for a new player, sometimes more. They all have excellent writing and world building, with some decent but not extraordinary characters.
You can get all five in a single pack from gog.com for just 15 bucks.
Renzatic on 7/7/2013 at 21:42
Quote Posted by Malleus
I've been toying with the thought myself, but ... it's a GfWL game, right? Does this thing absolutely need GfWL? I mean, can it be played in offline mode? Can it be patched outside of GfWL?
What Deth and Faetal said. You can play it offline and save your games easily enough, but you lose out on a ton of atmosphere if you do. The biggest thing is you won't be able to read messages from other players or see their bloodstains, which can occasionally be very, very helpful. You'll also miss out on all the little touches being online adds. Like sometimes when you're sitting around a bonfire, you'll see the half formed ghosts of other players doing that same thing, slowly fading in and out as they come and go.
...though you also won't get invaded by nearly as many black phantoms, which could be considered a plus if you suck at fighting against other people.
For me, the worst part was getting the game to work with GfWL. One of the things I hate most about Live is how freaking temperamental it is. If you don't have everything set up just right, it'll throw a bitch, and make your games act weird. It did this to me with DS. Since I apparently didn't install the EXACT PROPER AND CORRECT version of Live, it wouldn't let me save my progress. I had to go through a ton of pointless BS to get it working.
Though once it's able to run properly, it won't give you any grief or heartache from that point on.
june gloom on 7/7/2013 at 22:17
The only time GFWL gave me any trouble with DS was when the service itself had a systemwide outage for a few days. Other than that it's been perfect.
Renzatic on 7/7/2013 at 22:50
Like I said, once it's running, it's running. I never had a problem with it afterwards. But getting to to that point was a complete and total WHORE.
If I want to install DS again, what I have to do is uninstall everything to do with GfWL before installing the game and let Steam update it during the first run. Then if the game tells me it can't connect to the service for whatever reason, I go to the MS site and download the latest version from there. That usually fixes it right up.
Mr.Duck on 8/7/2013 at 00:26
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Dark Souls is what you'd get if you made a medieval survival horror game -- and I mean old-school surhor, Resident Evil and Silent Hill and such, just a better camera -- with RPG elements.
And it's fucking glorious.
So, have you gotten past
Slim & Chubbs yet? :D
CCCToad on 8/7/2013 at 03:55
Second on KoToR. It's not a particularly deep game, but it is fairly close to NWN (it uses the closely related Star Wars D20 rules) and captures the "feel" of star wars better than any other game has.
