faetal on 9/7/2013 at 10:00
Quote Posted by DDL
Still, I feel exactly the same way as wingedkagouti about view control: I'm just fucking
terrible at using analog sticks to control my view, whereas mouse feels incredibly intuitive.
You get used to it and better at it. Dark Souls pulled me in the the extent that I just damned well learned how to use the accursed thing. I'm not exaggerating when I said I wouldn't touch a controller before that.
N'Al on 9/7/2013 at 10:10
Yeah, it's very easy to forget how unintuitive any control scheme can be if you're not used to it.
I tried getting my sister - pretty much a non-gamer, unless you count Solitaire - into Burnout Paradise, and all she did was drive the car into a pillar since she was so unused to the control scheme (having said that, I'm sure she would struggle just as much with kb+m in Unreal Tournament).
I'm certain she would soon get used to it if she stuck with it, and be able to play the game properly. However, I laughed at her face after her 'mishap', and now she doesn't want to even try anymore. Methinks that may have been the wrong approach... :erg:
Being a 'gamer' doesn't mean you're any less likely to struggle with a new control scheme, just that the 'transition period' may be a bit shorter.
Renzatic on 9/7/2013 at 10:12
Dark Souls was probably the one game that got me most used to using analog sticks in a 3D environment, but I've been using them for 2D games (like Super Meat Boy) for ages now.
These days I'm actually fairly decent with a gamepad. I can even play FPS games with them. All you have to do is find a game that you can acclimate yourself to a pad with, and just practice. Pretty much the same way you learned to use a kb/m setup.
twisty on 9/7/2013 at 15:27
Seeing as I might be heading abroad next week and with some free time to myself at the moment I went ahead and purchased Dark Souls. It's going to take me a little while to get used to the gamepad but I can already see why many of you have recommended it for this game. Although I used to be pretty good with the controls on my Playstations, I haven't played either of them for years now.
I spent a couple of frustrating hours just trying to get this game to run so haven't had much time to play much of it yet, but am looking forward to getting stuck into it tomorrow. First impressions look very promising though. I'll post in the main Dark Souls thread once I've spent a bit of time with it.
In case you've got nothing better to do, this following ramble is the product of an afternoon wasted doing battle with GFW:
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Installed game via Steam. Double-clicked on the game, a direct-x update installed and then it exits. I got an error message about GFW not being compatible with Windows 8 but with the option to "run anyway" I tried again. Nothing happened. So I double-clicked the game in my Steam library, the generic game-starting Steam message window pops up and then disappears. Try a reboot. Same thing. Remembering that I still had the GFW client installed on my PC from when I played Arkham City I decided to run it to see if that was the problem. As it was an older version I was required to perform an update but once it finished installing it wouldn't accept my login credentials. Although I was certain that the details were correct I went to Hotmail anyway and tested my login. Lo and behold, it worked fine but still wouldn't work within the GFW client. Scratching my head I Googled around with no success but out of frustration clicked on one of Microsoft's adverts for their marketplace and found that I could log in to their XBOX site. It asked me to accept an agreement of some kind before logging me into the account of DampWand# (they could have generated a more flattering handle for me). Thinking that this agreement might now allow me to log into the client I tried again and it now worked without issue. Considering that I don't have an XBOX this was a fairly unintuitive step to have to take. I was also able to start the game now, albeit in Windowed mode only for some reason. The Internal GFW appeared and asked me to login. Following this I was taken to a screen where I entered my CD key only to be booted out with an incorrect login details :mad:. Rinse, repeat and eventually the damn thing starts to work. Although I haven't had any problems with it since the whole experience was very frustrating to say the least.[/INDENT]
faetal on 9/7/2013 at 15:31
On the upside, there is (currently) no GfWL logo on the DS2 website :)
Jason Moyer on 9/7/2013 at 18:48
Controller pro-tip: Even though it was designed as a PC game first with mouse/keyboard control, The Witcher 2 is substantially better with a gamepad. As is every other melee-oriented action game. Pretty much the only games I can even imagine using the mouse for anymore are strategy and anything that involves aiming a gun or first person viewpoint.
Pyrian on 9/7/2013 at 19:59
Quote Posted by N'Al
Yeah, it's very easy to forget how unintuitive
any control scheme can be if you're not used to it.
Eh, first time I used mouselook in an FPS it was instantly sooo much easier than the keyboard-only controls of the original Doom/etc.
june gloom on 9/7/2013 at 20:57
Playing anything after System Shock 1 results in amateur mistakes and general "HOW I SHOT GUN" foolishness. That game destroys muscle memory without mouse patches or whatever the kids use these days to play it.
Renzatic on 9/7/2013 at 21:22
What Faetal said. Though when using it, I recommend only upping the internal resolution, and locking your framerate to 30 FPS. It gives you a lot of options to mess around with, but since From didn't intend for people to mess around all that deeply with the settings, screwing around with them too much can end up causing the game to go all goofy.
Also, before ZB comes in and does it himself...
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