Robin Williams, star of Jumanji, dead in apparent suicide

Renzatic on 2/9/2014 at 02:53

Yeah, Nicker. You can't just pop in and say something like that without having at least 3 citations to back up your statement. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? :confused:

Vernon on 2/9/2014 at 12:01

[video=youtube;3KZ6mIsbDc4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZ6mIsbDc4[/video]

Nicker on 3/9/2014 at 04:28

Quote Posted by Renzatic

Yeah, Nicker. You can't just pop in and say something like that without having at least 3 citations to back up your statement. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? :confused:

I wasn't thinking. I was just making shit up to confound an already convoluted subject to annoy TonyT.

Actually I believe it was on a long running broadcast called Ideas, on CBC Radio 1, many many years ago.

I tried to find the particular program but haven't yet. (http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/archives.html) I did find their archive, however. Splendid stuff.

I did also find a direct reference (http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2002/08/The-Spiritual-Side-Of-Sloth.aspx?p=1) HERE, but there is no citation for the citation.

Also (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635194065/Sloth--Some-say-its-worst-of-the-7-deadly-sins.html?pg=all) HERE but you'll have to do a word search to find the references.

And from (http://deadlyspins.com/page2/page2.html) this page...

Quote:

Yet sloth is more than laziness and idleness. In the original sense meant by the early Christians, it is a surrender to despair. Sloth annihilates the will. In this sense, the condition is akin to clinical depression, which is characterized by a retreat from most activities, social or otherwise.

But again, no meta-citation.

Now(http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/4778/1/4778_2247.PDF?UkUDh:CyT) THIS THESIS is chock a block with references to depression as sin, and it DOES have citations up the yin-yang too.

Do you think that will suffice to convince TonyT that I didn't just make it up?

Sulphur on 3/9/2014 at 06:04

Nicker: <3

ZylonBane on 3/9/2014 at 15:18

Quote Posted by Nicker

I wasn't thinking. I was just making shit up to confound an already convoluted subject to annoy TonyT.

I don't think you quite understand how trolls work.

Tony_Tarantula on 3/9/2014 at 15:36

Quote Posted by Nicker

Do you think that will suffice to convince TonyT that I didn't just make it up?

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http://i.imgur.com/dJgInKu.jpg

And no.....but I can see how people would confuse depression with laziness.

DaBeast on 7/9/2014 at 23:24

Immediately after his death, the media scrambled for something causal and went with money. He was Robin Williams ffs, he could have been bankrupt and cleared it easily.

It could certainly be a contributing factor, but it's just as likely there was an underlying thing going on, lots of comedians have that whole tragic, miserable life thing early on, which is partly why they're funny.

Depression is incredibly misunderstood by most folks, not that it's rare, but discussing it is, which is why here we have so many campaigns trying to raise awareness for it. (Some researchers are pointing out that the depression/suicide occurrence being much higher in men is an example of too much focus spent on women as a result of the feminist movement. I really need to rephrase that better, but can't think of the right words).

Most people I think would say that Williams was the last person they'd think of to do this, which is exactly why depression is such a dangerous thing.

Tony_Tarantula on 8/9/2014 at 02:26

Quote Posted by DaBeast

Some researchers are pointing out that the depression/suicide occurrence being much higher in men is an example of too much focus spent on women as a result of the feminist movement. I really need to rephrase that better, but can't think of the right words

I wouldn't agree with that being the cause. A better way of putting it is to point out that the modern white collar workplace and social life are extremely emasculating.

Nicker on 8/9/2014 at 02:46

You were supposed to demand a citation.

So, DaBeast - who are these "some researchers"?

DDL on 8/9/2014 at 12:18

I thought both sexes had roughly equal suicide rates by attempt, but guys were just more likely to choose a method with a high success rate.
(seems at least partially backed up by (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide) this, but as always: it is wikipedia)

Pills or cutting across? NOT MANLY.

Guns, tall buildings or cutting along? MANLY.

Suicidal impulses can be just that: impulses. If you're more likely to pick a method that works on impulse (guns, for instance) then...well, yeah. I seem to recall that the IDF reported a large reduction in suicides just by stopping troopers taking their guns home for the weekend: an extra bit of time to think things through (rather than just reaching for the gun that's like, right there, dude) makes all the difference.