Derspegn on 1/6/2015 at 04:42
I made a test level using Komag's online tutorial. I followed every step and typed everything exactly as it should be. However, when I go to load the FM with Darkloader or FMSel (I edit the ; correctly to switch), Running Interference appears instead. Also, I only get the checkmark squares for objectives, but not the listed objectives. Komag briefly covered this in the tutorial, but it was not followed up on for some reason.
Has anyone encountered the same problem? My mission has been named miss17.mis, mis20.mis, and this corresponds to the input in DromEd - everything matches! But I can't figure out what going amiss.
I had less troubles with different Thief 2 installs when they were installed under separate folders ("Libraries:\gamesb" or "Libraries:\gamesc" as opposed to different installs being under one "games" file. But I'm still wondering if there are crossovers so that I might only need to have a DromEd install but not play any fan missions on the same computer. Is this true or can I play fan missions and edit in DromEd on a single system?
Unfortunately my time with DromEd has been in hiatus so I can only provide general details at the moment. In some ways I like the way that Thief 2 integrates ambient music and mission campaigns better than Darkmod, although I find the tutorials to be missing certain details that can really stump a level designer.
LarryG on 1/6/2015 at 04:59
Re. Starting mission: you need to update misflag.str in your strings directory. Say you want to start with mission 22 and you don't want to use the loadout or show a briefing, it should look like this:
Code:
// Valid mission flags //
// skip This mission doesn't exist; it should be skipped.
// no_briefing Skip the briefing movie
// no_loadout Skip the loadout
// cutscene Play a cutscene immediately afterward
// end End the game when this mission is completed
miss_1: "skip"
miss_2: "skip"
miss_3: "skip"
miss_4: "skip"
miss_5: "skip"
miss_6: "skip"
miss_7: "skip"
miss_8: "skip"
miss_9: "skip"
miss_10: "skip"
miss_11: "skip"
miss_12: "skip"
miss_13: "skip"
miss_14: "skip"
miss_15: "skip"
miss_16: "skip"
miss_17: "skip"
miss_18: "skip"
miss_19: "skip"
miss_20: "skip"
miss_21: "skip"
miss_22: "no_briefing, no_loadout, end"
See: (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140283) Songs and Song Schemas
Also see: (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131800#sound)
Renault on 1/6/2015 at 14:35
@Middoth - if you want to send me your test level, I can take a look. Komag's tutorial covers all of this very well, so I'm guessing you just have a typo or missed something minor somewhere. A 2nd set of eyes might help locate your issue. Check my profile for an email address.
Derspegn on 1/6/2015 at 15:15
I typed everything exactly as the tutorial stated. I specified no briefings or loadouts, but I kept getting Running Interference instead of the FM, and no listed objectives.
Maybe I will email Brethren the FM for him to look over.
R Soul on 1/6/2015 at 15:54
If you're not getting objective text but you have created intrface\misXX\goals.str, you've probably not set the Dark Mission Description property in Dromed (under Editors > Mission Variables). Mission Number: XX, Mission Pathname: missXX. XX = 17, 20, or whatever your number is.
Renault on 1/6/2015 at 16:25
@Middoth = A bit limited in what I can do at work here, but I took a quick glance at your mission zip and it needs some work. You have a lot of stuff in the wrong place, and some duplicates. I'll try to mess with it more at lunch, but you might want to open up an existing FM and take a look at the structure. Something has definitely been lost in translation from Komag's tutorial.
.mis, .gam, and .txt files should be in the root.
All you resource folders should be in the root too. It should all look something like this when you open the zip file:
[ ] books
[ ] intrface
[ ] strings
miss17.gam
ReadMe.txt
Retriveal.gam
I tried to quickly fix it, repackage and run, but T2 crashed, so I'll have to investigate further. Are you using New Dark?
Derspegn on 1/6/2015 at 20:57
Quote Posted by Brethren
Are you using New Dark?
Yes, I'm using New Dark. Does that make a difference? Also, it has been a long time since I put the level together, so apologies for anything missing or out-of-place. I had a couple more .zip files because I tried to repackage the mission, but they included what appeared to be an extra root file. Maybe I could send you those as well?
Renault on 2/6/2015 at 02:54
Alright, got everything working. Here's what I fixed: (this is based on the most recent zip you emailed to me)
1. The root of your zip file has everything in a "Retrieval" folder. You don't need that. Make sure when you open the zip, you're seeing the type of structure listed in my post above.
2. You have a .gam file, but you didn't tell your mission to use it. At the dromed command line, type this: set_gamesys Retrieval.gam Then save your mission again.
3. As R Soul mentioned above, you didn't have the correct info under Editor->Mission Parameters->Dark Mission Description. You still had 24 & miss24 in there, when it should have been 17 & miss17.
4. I was only seeing your first two objectives, but not the last two. When I brought up your goals file in Notepad, the last two objectives had a fancier type of quotation mark, a more curly version. I'm not sure why this matters, but when I deleted them and then retyped them in, all the objectives worked fine. I'm guessing you copied and pasted them from a page withe a different font or something like that.
I emailed you a fixed version of the zip.
Derspegn on 2/6/2015 at 21:48
Quote Posted by Brethren
4. I was only seeing your first two objectives, but not the last two. When I brought up your goals file in Notepad, the last two objectives had a fancier type of quotation mark, a more curly version. I'm not sure why this matters, but when I deleted them and then retyped them in, all the objectives worked fine. I'm guessing you copied and pasted them from a page withe a different font or something like that.
I emailed you a fixed version of the zip.
You're right about the copying/pasting: I was too lazy to manually type everything. Thanks for looking it over and fixing it. The test FM works great now.
Yandros on 3/6/2015 at 00:04
The quotation marks used in Google documents are the wrong kind. Every time I copy and paste from our campaign design docs (stuff like voice lines for subtitles, or goal texts) I have to remember to do global replace on the quotes.
