Sandwiches: the open vs. closed debate - by Yakoob
demagogue on 24/7/2011 at 18:46
While we're sort of circling the topic, it is interesting how nuanced food culture can be. Seems straightforward at first, but it can be deep too like anything in culture.
If you had to pick a quintessential American food or food culture or attitude, sort of like the "regular" American accent, it'd be mid-West, which translates to suburbanized Polish, which brings you to some kind of noodle casserole made in the oven in glass containers & afterwards stored in tupperware. That's like the sort of thing my grandmother would make. Now looking back at straight-up Polish food it looks foreign, but a part of it is also a lot closer to home than we think.
This has nothing to do with sandwiches though. I imagine that (or the American culture of them) developed after the typical American attitude of convenience & on the go, like taking a British staple and translating it to stands at a boardwalk, sort of like ice cream cones. You want meat, veggies & bread together, then you want something that holds it all together and can be served as a take-out unit, and then the math sort of does itself.
I could be making all this up though... Just seems like I heard about it that way.
SD on 24/7/2011 at 19:38
Nice effort Subster... I wonder if it would work with veggie burgers :sweat:
rachel on 24/7/2011 at 19:45
hell yeah, looks yummy... recipe bookmarked here too for a later date :D
SubJeff on 24/7/2011 at 20:35
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Nice effort Subster... I wonder if it would work with veggie burgers :sweat:
I'm sure it would.
if you want a gayburger sandwiatch at the end of it :p
Seriously though, it would work I guess but I don't know how they'd turn out. Maybe if you got some that are higher quality (if such a thing exists). I do know that when I was in Taiwan there were some fantastic meat substitute tofu creations (with frikking striae, but which taste nothing like meat) that would work great in this because they'd provide the correct(ish) textures.
I still can't get my head around even veggie burgers or sausages. If you don't eat meat why are you making approximations of it? That's like dressing your girlfriend up as a man - doesn't compute.
Why are you veggie again? I know it's not for religious reasons but I forget.
Jason Moyer on 24/7/2011 at 20:57
Having lived in Pittsburgh for the past 15 years, I think cooked/uncooked and fries in sandwich/what the hell? are better debates.
Seriously, the first time I ordered an Italian hoagie and it came cooked I almost threw up.
Edit: SE, that looks amazing.
Edit 2: Any of you Euros have sandwich suggestions for Branston pickle? I usually just eat it plain on two pieces of bread but is it usually used as a condiment or what?
Yakoob on 24/7/2011 at 21:30
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If you had to pick a quintessential American food or food culture or attitude, sort of like the "regular" American accent, it'd be mid-West, which translates to suburbanized Polish, which brings you to some kind of noodle casserole made in the oven in glass containers & afterwards stored in tupperware.
Nothing about that sounds polish. what :confused:
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If you don't eat meat why are you making approximations of it? That's like dressing your girlfriend up as a man - doesn't compute.
Some of them do like meat and meat products, but choose not to eat them because ANIMAL RIGHTS. So I guess they can at least pretend. And maybe making the transition with meat-look-alikes makes it psychologically easier.
Also mad props for the steak-bread thingy, looks awesome. Do post more pics tomorrow please!
SubJeff on 24/7/2011 at 21:44
dema's not saying the food is Polish, he's equating peoples.
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Any of you Euros have sandwich suggestions for Branston pickle? I usually just eat it plain on two pieces of bread but is it usually used as a condiment or what?
Are you frakking kidding, or what?
demagogue on 24/7/2011 at 21:48
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Nothing about that sounds polish. what :confused:
Well Taco Bell isn't all that Mexican... But cassaroles are always connected with the mid-West, which is as Polish as the US gets in terms of cultural roots or whatever it is. But I was admitting I could have been pulling it out of my ass, and the oracle of google is certainly pointing in that direction. A little googlefoo says cassaroles have their origins in French cooking and morphed into the American form 1890s/1930s in the era of scarcity. Well if it didn't apply here, the point applies to other foods.
It was just something about the 1950s that painted this picture of the suburban nuclear family, mid-West / ~suburban Chicago accent, culture & values, tupperware, cassaroles, kitchen appliances, and I recently read some article about Liberace, for as flamboyant as he was, also crystallized the deeply conservative Americana ethos of that whole image & period, as a midWestern Polish Catholic (edit: yes Italian name, but the Polish maternal side & music training seem to have had the larger influence)... (TBH, I always connected cassaroles with something like goulash, just a mass of yellow and brown goop... but that's more Hungarian. Suppose I just transposed that to Poland in my mind... Whatever, I was making shit up; it's not like I have a defense here lol.)
Edit: I'll give the positive spin on it. Let's just say I like to hear about the history & culture of where food traditions come from. :)
Edit2: SE that looks mouthwateringly great!
