heywood on 5/7/2012 at 03:01
Quote Posted by faetal
Heywood, for the last point:
Women and men described as if fungible, power vacuums create by one and exploited by the other...
It does paint a rather militant scene.
Upon re-reading, I was wrong.
BrokenArts on 5/7/2012 at 04:59
Quote Posted by Vivian
Well,
I had to google that. Dunno about anyone else.
Same here, at first I thought it was something you needed an ointment for.
Papy on 5/7/2012 at 13:54
Quote Posted by faetal
Wipe to spittle from your chin and try again.
Based on your answer which shows so much emotions, I'd say it's you who should do that.
Anyway, you win.
faetal on 5/7/2012 at 14:06
I apologise for the spittle comment, it was said during a heated exchange - shit happens.
No one "wins", it's a debate, not an arm wrestle. You challenge points and either re-phrase to account for gap in understanding, agree to disagree or concede a point, update your own viewpoint and move on. It's how ideas evolve.
Vivian on 5/7/2012 at 15:12
It's very true. There are no winners on TTLG.
Sg3 on 5/7/2012 at 19:10
Why is this not dead yet? Zylonbane's excellent zing should have done this thread in.
Jason Moyer on 6/7/2012 at 08:31
Quote Posted by faetal
No one "wins", it's a debate, not an arm wrestle. You challenge points and either re-phrase to account for gap in understanding, agree to disagree or concede a point, update your own viewpoint and move on. It's how ideas evolve.
I disagree, ideas evolve through direct intervention by an enlightened individual.
faetal on 6/7/2012 at 11:23
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I disagree, ideas evolve through direct intervention by an enlightened individual.
That's sort of what I was getting at with the acceptance of an opposing viewpoint and update of your own ideas. It is necessary to put up some resistance to ideas though so that the strongest ones need to cross a threshold in order to implant. This is how evolution of memes works in concert with cognitive dissonance. A certain amount of dissonance is evoked by an idea which conflicts with currently held beliefs which leads to rejection of the idea up to a point. Ideas which are either extremely compelling, or are sufficiently supported by additional detail or parallel ideas, can push past this dissonance to the point there hanging on to the previous belief becomes more dissonant than accepting the new one. Direct intervention by an enlightened individual is certainly a good vector for this to occur though, so I'm not disagreeing.
