Sap'em on 9/8/2002 at 02:36
I am getting the message "thief needs 35 megs to run" you have 25. I checked- 8 gigs yet to go..:erg: Also tried to close out all programs in taskbar - no dice. So I am only batting 500 with this one. Good thing I have more time at work than at home to play.. he he:ebil:
Komag on 9/8/2002 at 06:54
That's not a problem with the mission, but you just need to either add stuff to your HD or remove some stuff, cause it just happens to be at this perfect junction of available space that it doesn't like
Lady Jo on 9/8/2002 at 07:14
I have a hard disk of 40 Go and there remains half of free about it :confused:
I have also made fresh reboot for test and it is similar
Sap'em on 9/8/2002 at 13:08
An earlier post of yours Komag, that talked about this. Strange.:weird: , but true. I think I'll try adding some more FM's, see if that helps.
epithumia on 9/8/2002 at 15:00
Since the mission dies when trying to play the first movie, is it possible there's an issue with the codec the AVI is supposed to play with? My machine has nothing on it except the Win98 bloat, Thief (G and 2), Darkloader and a bunch of missions.
The AVI files do compress an incredible amount, which is something I'm not used to. The campaign is nearly a gigabyte uncompressed. I've never seen other Thief AVI files compress that much.
Anyone know how to check this?
Komag on 9/8/2002 at 15:32
The campaign seems to work for me with no problems, but the movie quality seems bad, and I also noticed the extreme movie .zipfile compression which is highly unusual.
epithumia on 10/8/2002 at 03:53
I've verified that the movies are the problem; I can't play them outside of Thief. When I try, media player just crashes. Of course there's no useful debug info.
I suspect that there is some correlation between success in playing this movie and either Windows version (I have '98) or installed codecs (I have none other than what comes with '98 and Thief G/2). But at this point I've come the the limits of Windows knowledge. Someone else must have some insight.
Komag on 10/8/2002 at 04:44
Okay, that sounds like that's it then. The movies are quite an anomoly and that's probably the full culpret. That will certainly need to be fixed before a widespread release!
Sperry on 10/8/2002 at 04:51
I'll work on it pronto. But can anyone help me fix them? I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with them.
The Elusive One on 10/8/2002 at 08:58
I've done a little research on these avi files and found the following:
The crash occurs in LGVID.AX which is a Thief file (probably some activex control Thief uses for playing video) and it seems not to like the format of the avi files. It is not a case of a missing codec since these avi files are uncompressed rgb16 which essentially means they consist entirely of 16bit bitmaps and support for this is built in (as far as i know). I have also found that on a fresh boot Windows Media player can play them but once Thief has died Media player also crashes in LGVID.AX. This happens on both Win98 and Win2000 most likely because the activex control is not unregistered when Thief crashes.
At first glance all video files except cs31.avi seem to consist of black on black, as in i can't see anything! But then i tried running them trough VirtualDub (a program for editing video files) with a levels filter and suddenly i could see text scrolling up. This to me indicates that something has gone wrong somewhere in the creation process of the video files except for cs31.avi which looks fine.
I have now converted all the video files to use Indeo Video V5 (same as thief's own video files) and applied the level filter to them and now everything works, but they aren't exactly pretty to look at. Think of seeing things through nightvision scopes and you get the picture.
Sperry: If you have some better quality source material where the scrolling text is actually visible i would be willing to download it and convert it for you. I have a 2mbit connection here at home, so bandwidth is not a problem. If you do not, i can upload my already converted video files somewhere.
