june gloom on 24/4/2013 at 17:51
Dr. Who's a children's show?
faetal on 24/4/2013 at 17:54
The idea that the place was filled with the elite, but used schlocky patronising adverts for plasmids and funny theme tunes and clown laughter in the vending machines grated a lot. It's all like "Rapture, a home for the achievers and geniuses who for some reason like their marketing to be aimed at the kind of over-excited cliched '40s era kids who say "gee whizz" a lot.".
I think Blood Dragon looks great actually, I like parodies done well. Also, I grew up eith Doctor Who, starting with Peter Davison before losing interest a bit after (and during to a large extent) Sylvester McCoy. I just always thought cyber men were meant to be frightening, where those ones just sound a bit disinterested. I bet they practically had to edit out the sighs between each "delete". It's not the phrase, it's the voice acting.
EvaUnit02 on 24/4/2013 at 18:05
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Dr. Who's a children's show?
Yes.
Quote Posted by faetal
The idea that the place was filled with the elite, but used schlocky patronising adverts for plasmids and funny theme tunes and clown laughter in the vending machines grated a lot. It's all like "Rapture, a home for the achievers and geniuses who for some reason like their marketing to be aimed at the kind of over-excited cliched '40s era kids who say "gee whizz" a lot.".
Wasn't cheese like that the norm in late 1940's/1950's advertising and entertainment though? The advertising wouldn't have been aimed at Rapture's blue collar under-class, at least not directly.
june gloom on 24/4/2013 at 18:40
That was a rhetorical question, because it's not actually a kid's show. Good try though.
faetal on 24/4/2013 at 18:54
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Wasn't cheese like that the norm in late 1940's/1950's advertising and entertainment though? The advertising wouldn't have been aimed at Rapture's blue collar under-class, at least not directly.
I'm sure advertising to kids was. Advertising to adults was all "buy this soap powder so you can please your husband by making everything clean" and "drink bourbon, it'll relax you so you can admonish your wife less". You know, all enlightened and that.
I'm enjoying Bioshock plenty, I think I just wish it could have been a
little less cartoon parody of the '40s and a bit more cataclysmic underwater utopia gone wrong. Which it was, perfectly in terms of all of the architecture. It's just all of the interactive stuff they filled it with that makes it short of brilliance for me. Every time it verges on the creepy with some amazing little set piece, I'm brought back to comedy-fun-psycho-silly-time with the splicers and vending machines. Even the clumsy security bots are comical. The thing they did really right was the big daddies and little sisters. Even some of the splicer parts are nicely eerie where they're e.g. crying next and empty pram or something, but the majority just feels silly.
Muzman on 24/4/2013 at 19:15
The thing with Rapture was it was conceived in the 20s, built and populated in the 30s and was essentially trapped there in most respects, let's not forget.
EvaUnit02 on 24/4/2013 at 19:51
Ryan didn't start building Rapture any earlier than the tail end of WW2.
Quote Posted by dethtoll
That was a rhetorical question, because it's not actually a kid's show. Good try though.
Literature/TV/etc for British children hasn't had much reservations about going into pretty grimdark territory historically. I'm sorry that you're used to being mollycoddled far more thoroughly on your side of the Atlantic.
Kuuso on 24/4/2013 at 20:18
Doctor Who is a children's show and always has been.
Renault on 24/4/2013 at 21:36
I'd like to hear how you guys define a children's show.
