NightFalcon on 2/11/2006 at 00:38
Why did Karras want to kill Garrett again?
SD on 2/11/2006 at 00:45
Who's this "Garret" character?
Karras wanted to kill Garrett because he stands in the way of all of his plans. QFS if you were actually paying attention to the plot AT ALL.
NightFalcon on 2/11/2006 at 00:50
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Who's this "Garret" character?
Karras wanted to kill Garret
t firstly because he has a deal with Truart to get rid of him, and then because he stands in the way of all of his plans. QFS if you were actually paying attention to the plot AT ALL.
I was paying attention to the plot the whole time buddy, but I must of just missed the part when the storyline points out why Karras is against Garrett.
And how was Garrett trying to stop Karras? I remember Karras was the one who hired Truart to kill Garrett. And why would Karras want to kill Garrett in the first place when he never had a thing for the Mechanists?
T-Smith on 2/11/2006 at 01:14
Through means we're not aware of, Karras knew a great deal about Garrett. He was once a Hammerite, and based on comments he makes in Soulforge, it seems he was the one who created Garrett's mechanical eye.
If this is the case, no doubt he knew who Garrett was, and that he had managed to defeat The Trickster. Karras probably wanted Garrett out of the way as extra protection. If Garrett could defeat a god, what would there be to stop him from bringing his own plans to a halt? Hiring Truart to kill Garrett was probably just him being extra careful, not wanting to take any risks.
Of course, this backfired, and brought forth Garrett's interest in the Mechanists. It may even be possible that by involving Garrett at all, Karras spelled out his own downfall.
paloalto on 2/11/2006 at 03:51
It's likely that Karras got a hold of the prophecies which would include Garrett and that Garrett was the key to his downfall.It was the influence of the Keepers that gave Garrett his eye I bieleive and so the Keepers and Karras had some sort of possible deal about divulging prophecy.
june gloom on 2/11/2006 at 04:41
that's the stupidest idea i ever heard.
i'm more inclined to agree with t-smith.
NightFalcon on 2/11/2006 at 06:41
Quote Posted by T-Smith
Through means we're not aware of, Karras knew a great deal about Garrett. He was once a Hammerite, and based on comments he makes in Soulforge, it seems he was the one who created Garrett's mechanical eye.
If this is the case, no doubt he knew who Garrett was, and that he had managed to defeat The Trickster. Karras probably wanted Garrett out of the way as extra protection. If Garrett could defeat a god, what would there be to stop him from bringing his own plans to a halt? Hiring Truart to kill Garrett was probably just him being extra careful, not wanting to take any risks.
Of course, this backfired, and brought forth Garrett's interest in the Mechanists. It may even be possible that by involving Garrett at all, Karras spelled out his own downfall.
I'm liking your logic. So basically in a nutshell, we
really do not know why Karras was against Garrett in the first place, right? Since the story does not point this out to us. Our best bet is that his fanatacism towards his religion and how the religion prophesized that Garrett will destroy Karras is why Karras has a hostility towards Garrett.
P.S= Garrett was a Hammerite? I thought he was recruited by the Keepers into their "clan" when he was a little boy because they seemed to have found talent in him for sneaking around.
P.S 2 = What's the difference between a rope and vine arrow? I've still yet to figure that out.
Random_Taffer on 2/11/2006 at 06:51
Quote Posted by NightFalcon
P.S= Garrett was a Hammerite? I thought he was recruited by the Keepers into their "clan" when he was a little boy because they seemed to have found talent in him for sneaking around.
No, Karras was a hammerite.
Dan on 2/11/2006 at 06:53
Vine arrows can be stuck to grill surface, besides wooden.
theBlackman on 2/11/2006 at 08:49
Item: Karras was a meglomainiac.
Item: Garrett had a feud going with the Hammerites.
Item: A temporary truce was in effect between Garrett and the Hammerites to defeat the Woodsy Lord.
Item: Following the destruction of the Woodsy Lord, Garrett reverted to his disdain of the Hammerite order and it's perverted offshoot, the Mechanists.
Item: Karras, a leading figure with the Hammerites wanted to use Garrett's skills to further the plans he, (Karras) had.
Item: Karras had a mechanical eye given to Garrett, expecting this "Bribe" to turn Garrett into a ally.
Item: Garrett eschewed all religion, and when Karras left the Hammers and started his own Mechanist cult, Garrett did not ally with Karras.
Item: When Viktoria discovered the plot to destroy all life, and replace it with mechanical (robot) creatures, she convinced Garrett to help prevent Karras from this ultimate goal.
Item: Karras and the disaster was foretold in the Keeper Prophecies.
Item: Karras hated all non-mechanical life.
Item: Garrett's failure to be seduced by him, and his alignment with Viktoria, incensed Karras.
