faetal on 18/9/2013 at 11:20
Quote Posted by Yakoob
Funny you mentioned that, I lived in arizona for 3 years and never cared to visit the grand canyon. I visited India and deliberately skipped on Taj Mahaj cause it's "the thing" to do. Didn't care for it, don't get "wowed" by stuff liek that.
You seem to be implying that I have a psychological problem? I don't think so. I still get excited by things (like developing my game), but just not in some awestruck "I want to build a monument and dance naked around it for days" way.
And I know many people, like Queue here, who fall in the same category. Admiration and pleasure are relative. So no, I don't think sense of awe is some universal trait, unless by "awe" you mean merely being "excited" but then we might just start asking what the point of emotions is (and I bet dopamine has something to do with that too).
Not a psychological
problem - did I say problem? I did not. Just different to the majority. Nothing wrong with it, just worth noting that it's an exception. There's a reason those things are the done thing.
Yakoob on 19/9/2013 at 03:19
Ah thAts what your earlier post Seemed to suggest:
Quote Posted by faetal
I'm sure there are people who can't experience awe, probably
due to a psychological or neurological issue. Awe is great for motivation. Would I have become a musician if I hadn't been stunned by music? Would I be a biochemist if molecular biology hadn't blown my mind?
Regardless I wasn't offended or anything just discussing :) (and I probably do have some mental issues - I post on ttlg after all :laff:)
I never considered awe as universal as you claim but maybe we just have two different definitions of the word?
Personally, and i think queue said the same thing, i considerd awe as higher level of "excited" or "passionate" or even more basic "happy" - just natural extension of our emotions, not some special separate thing.
I've been in situations when seeing a great view my pfriends would be wowed while I was thinking "eh it's alright I get the same on google image search." Just assumed we had different interests, not that I was missing out on some deeper mental state.
But then who knows? Maybe their awe and my excitement for other things really are different and I just don't know cause I havent experienced that in this context?
Vasquez on 19/9/2013 at 06:33
Of course people are awed by different things, awe might be quite universal but the things that cause it are personal. Some people also emote very strongly and others more moderately. Then there's the difference for an observer - some people might feel very deeply, but they don't express it outwardly.
SubJeff on 19/9/2013 at 06:59
If Optimus Prime kicked in your door and demanded all the coconuts you'd feel awe, regardless of what you think of Google image searches.
I'm pretty sure it's universal. If you haven't felt it it just hasn't been triggered yet.
PigLick on 19/9/2013 at 07:02
well, I think I would rather be pleased than awed.
for example "That deep fried chicken snack was very pleasing"
SubJeff on 19/9/2013 at 07:11
An alien robot in your backyard and you'd just be "pleased"?
I don't know whether to blame the schools or the movies.
faetal on 19/9/2013 at 09:05
Blame the Decepticons, for forcing him to be there.
Queue on 19/9/2013 at 13:05
Quote Posted by NuEffect
An alien robot in your backyard and you'd just be "pleased"?
No. I'd be 'angered' by the bad acid.
Boxsmith on 19/9/2013 at 14:26
Quote Posted by Nicker
It's pretty much carte blanche. Once you have convinced someone you not only know what happens after death but that you know the secret to eternal reward or punishment, any other claim you make is gravy.
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You are a special individual, you are part of a chosen population and you will live forever. Those are pretty much universal religious dogmas.
I'm not sure that's a valid claim to make about all religion ever, or even a majority of religion. IIRC Greco-Roman religions, for instance, seldom made claims about afterlife. The self either ended upon death, or moved on to some dreary and undesirable existence in a land of the dead, but belief in either had less to do with whatever cult one subscribed to, and more with individual ideas about cosmology. The notions of a chosen people or judgment and reward after death are nearly universal to Abrahamic traditions, not religion.
Renzatic on 19/9/2013 at 14:35
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The notions of a chosen people or judgment and reward after death are nearly universal to Abrahamic traditions, not religion.
Sortakinda, but not really. The idea of eternal reward started with Christianity, and was picked up by Islam shortly thereafter. The ancient Jews believed in Sheol, which was described as a dreary non-place cut off from the light of God. Something more in line with the true Christian defintion of Hell.
