Some confusion about the names of the Keeper characters... - by Petike the Taffer
Petike the Taffer on 20/12/2008 at 22:55
Let me cut to the chase :
Is Artemus ever mentioned by name in TDP or TMA ?
Because I really can't remember anyone calling him by name (or mentioning him in written texts). Was his name first introduced only in TDS ?
I understand, that there is some confusion about whether Artemus appears in any other cutscenes of TDP and TMA except the first one (Garrett's childhood "memoirs"), or if those are just some other, random, unnamed Keepers...
Furthermore... Is Caduca's name ever brought up in TMA (since she has a
short cameo role there along with Gammall) ?
Thanks in advance for any possible explanations. ;)
jtr7 on 20/12/2008 at 23:22
Artemus, Caduca, and Gamall are only ever named in TDS only.
The name given to the Keeper who hounds Garrett in TMA is named Keeper Nate in the credits only. The others are named Keeper "X" (credits) and Orland (in-game and credits).
The Keepers in TDP/Gold are not named.
Petike the Taffer on 20/12/2008 at 23:37
Quote Posted by jtr7
The name given to the Keeper who hounds Garrett in TMA is named Keeper Nate in the credits only.
A nod to Nate Wells, who also voiced Artemus ? Hmmm...
Sxerks on 20/12/2008 at 23:38
You can read and view the transcripts on the (
http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Briefings_and_Cutscenes) wiki
Maybe the confusion is who is doing the voice acting. Is the person who voiced Artemus the same as the one from the "A Keeper's training", and are the voices acted in the same manner?
jtr7 on 20/12/2008 at 23:46
One of the trainers is Nate Wells. According to the schemas he's the main instructor. Josh Randall does the Keeper(s) listening and watching for Garrett in the Hearing room and Sight room.
Nate Wells does at least one Keeper voice per game, including Artemus. In TDP/Gold, it sounds like Dan Thron does most of the talking after Training, though.
Sxerks on 20/12/2008 at 23:50
How about the voice from the briefing, the "To see a Keeper is not an easy thing" one?
jtr7 on 20/12/2008 at 23:55
Definitely not Thron, and it matches the instructor, so I will claim that it is very likely Nate Wells.
Petike the Taffer on 21/12/2008 at 01:15
Thanks, guys ! :)
One more question :
Are there any Keeper women with known names ? Besides Caduca...
I think I remember a certain Keeper named Isolde or Isolda, but I am not sure...
jtr7 on 21/12/2008 at 01:37
Isolde, Gamall (that was her name hundreds of years ago, too), Shanti (Lost City expedition, removed in Thief Gold), Keepers Soledad, Talia, Kasadra.
I'd have to listen to the sound files to determine some of them by voice. For instance, Elder Blake is female, and she speaks with Keeper Logan, male.
Petike the Taffer on 21/12/2008 at 09:49
Quote Posted by jtr7
Isolde, Gamall (that was her name hundreds of years ago, too), Shanti (Lost City expedition, removed in
Thief Gold), Keepers Soledad, Talia, Kasadra.
I'd have to listen to the sound files to determine some of them by voice. For instance, Elder Blake is female, and she speaks with Keeper Logan, male.
Ah, yeah ! Now I remember. Thank you very much.