Cardel on 23/6/2006 at 16:22
Yes, Im pretty sure there is. The corpse lies in the bushes beside the first set of steps down. It'd be diffcult to ghost the tunnels whilst carrying it, though it can be done.
Palantir on 24/6/2006 at 08:48
There is a corpse near the staircase entrance of Tarboot, taking it to the altar was easy: just some carrying, dropping, crouching, and then carry again...
jtr7 on 25/6/2006 at 19:54
Whew! Okay then, good. So many people just grab a live Pagan and bleed 'im that I was wondering. I was hoping all favorite styles (including the non-assassin style) were available.:thumb:
CountMRVHS on 27/6/2006 at 20:43
Ghosting Moira's mansion:
[SPOILER]The guard that stands in the room with the secret entrance to the captain's hidden room *always* seems to just stare right at the treasure chest; I've never seen him turn in another direction. The only way I've been able to get that loot is by KOing him, hiding the body, and picking the lock while the guard in the hallway has his back turned.
I always try to ghost that mission, but always have to KO at least that guard and usually another one on the way to that time-sensitive hidden entrance. [/SPOILER]
Is there a ghoster's walkthrough for TDS somewhere around here? I seem to remember something ... off to check...
Xenith on 27/6/2006 at 21:10
about ghosting Moira's mansion
[spoiler] couldn't you just shoot a noisemaker arrow to lure the guard staring at the chest? I remember it worked for me... [/spoiler]
CountMRVHS on 27/6/2006 at 21:35
True, Xenith. But the thing I'd be worried about is the whole floor of guards becoming alerted and possibly seeing you through the transparent doors while you stand there and fiddle with the lock. I admit I haven't experimented with noisemakers much in any of the games, but they seem most useful as a last-minute escape tool, which I can use for a quick distraction to get out of the area fast.
A couple of times I've tried jumping up and down to get the guard's attention, but he doesn't move too far away and I never seem to have enough time to pick that lock.
Of course, in "real" ghosting (as the rules above) either of those methods is considered a bust. My own kind of pseudo-ghosting allows the use of some tools and 2nd-level alerts; basically I consider it a bust if the guard actually sees me. But even that more lenient style doesn't seem to work with Moira's mansion.
Did a quick search on "ghosting widow Moira's" and came up with a thread where a member (I believe BloodDragon) mentioned getting through some of those tough areas with the use of flashbombs. In TDS, a non-alerted AI hit with a flashbomb will be blinded, but then return to a state of non-alertedness. Seems like cheating to me (ditto for the moss arrow trick), but that's a way to do it and keep your stats clean.
Xenith on 27/6/2006 at 21:38
I guess the flash bomb might be an option.
out of topic: "ghosting" IMO involves the use of noisemaker arrows, oil flasks and holy water
jtr7 on 27/6/2006 at 23:52
Well, that makes it easier, for sure, but that would leave evidence that someone was there, un-ghost-like.;)
ZeroFlight on 28/6/2006 at 03:11
Depending on your self-imposed restrictions, you can pick up a wine bottle and chuck it. The one will hear it and go searching but none of the others.
Dussander on 28/6/2006 at 13:43
I've been able to ghost that bit, on the first attempt. Wait until the guard outside reaches the door and the guard staring at the chest will glance at him instead. You'll need him to do that at least twice before you can unlock the chest. You might need to keep one of the doors open for it to work.
