Malleus on 26/11/2005 at 22:16
Quote Posted by poroshin
Yes I'm encountering this myself right now, in fact. Have no idea how to sneak past the turrent or sneak in to disable it. Have been trying different things for 10 minutes now.
The turrets? I'm afraid you'll have to deactivate them. You can't sneak in. Rush to them, and if you did it in the right moment, you can get to their computer without being hit. If you deactivate it, you'll have a clearer passage later, and you can hide near the turret until the guards go away...
The first turret is indeed a good staging area, before making your way out to the corridor. The second barn with turrets - you can sneak into that, but the third is a rush job too.
poroshin on 26/11/2005 at 22:18
Problem is I can't rush in without being shot. :mad:
Malleus on 26/11/2005 at 22:23
Quote Posted by poroshin
Problem is I can't rush in without being shot. :mad:
Erm ... you're rolling, right? You can't crouch run in without taking damage, you have to roll at the right moment (and also start the whole rush at the right moment ... that's all I can say).
Fig455 on 26/11/2005 at 23:12
Quote Posted by Malleus
Yes, please! And if you're there, would you check the other places on those screenshots? I don't know for sure if it's a global problem or it's just me.
Btw, what driver do you use? (I have Catalyst 5.2)
Catalyst 5.7 until 5 minutes ago.....I just got the 5.11's. W/video drivers, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I was very satisfied w/the 5.7's and felt no need to update until I turned San Andreas on today and CJ was solid black (lol) and all the pedestrians were solid white. :eek: Hope it helps....
I used to use OMEGA's drivers, but I learned how to tweak them myself, and I never really saw much of a difference in performance anyway. Some games would be 3-5 fps faster, and some 3-5 fps slower. I would rather just use the ones ATI distributes and do the tweaking myself, so I KNOW what is going on.
poroshin on 27/11/2005 at 21:16
Wow this last part of the stables before you enter the large area where the prisoners are is TOUGH! I'm talking about the room with the turret and two guards. I managed to sneak into the room itself (see pic below...) but it's getting past the turret that's hard. I figured out what to do, it's just that it's extremely hard to do! It involves exiting this one stable I'm in (the turret is in the next), hiding in between the two stables while the turret turns all the way to the right, moving in the little divider that's in the middle of the turret's field of view, holding there until it's turned all the way to the left, and running out. Seems pretty straightforward, however there's the one guard that won't leave the room, he keeps pacing back and forth, and this doesn't give me a lot of time to do this move. Moreover, it's got to be done at a higher than sneaking speed, since the turret's turning is pretty fast, but this creates noise that the guard hears right away. I'm trying different things, including killing all the lights in the room but so far it hasn't helped. The only way I managed to escape this room is to run and get hit by the turret a few times, but that's not very ghost-like... So I'm stuck here for a while now.
I'm dreading what comes next, too :) This level definitely wasn't made with stealth in mind...
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http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/3632/turret7rk.th.jpgNeoPendragon on 27/11/2005 at 21:59
Maybe you can throw some cans and bottles to get the guard further away.
poroshin on 27/11/2005 at 22:20
Quote Posted by NeoPendragon
Maybe you can throw some cans and bottles to get the guard further away.
Yeah there are some in the previous room, I was thinking about that. Don't know if it'll actually help...
Malleus on 27/11/2005 at 23:19
That's the part I mentioned earlier as "hard" :). So here's what I did:
[SPOILER]I systematically killed most of the lights. I rushed into the next barn, when noone was watching and deactivated the turret. You can rush in without being shot by the turret. As you said you have to run to the "divider", then wait for a sec for the turret to turn and then rush in to the controls.
Then I waited in that barn until the guards were away, and moved to the next corridor.[/SPOILER]
poroshin on 29/11/2005 at 16:00
Well I managed to pass that finally last night. Killed all the lights, then shot another shot into the previous room and the guard wandered in there and I was able to pass the turret (didn't need to deactivate it, since you don't return).
Now the last part with saving the hostages, this is insane. Spent all eventing here and can't figure out what to do to ghost this. How is it even possible to KO these guys? I don't even have enough non-lethal projectiles, nor is it possible to sneak up on them, since the lights here are indestructable.
Oh and I don't think you should KO Grinko. If you don't kill him, his guards, if they're conscious, will revive him. I've had this happen. They'll say he's dead, but he's walking around. Very weird.
Malleus on 29/11/2005 at 16:24
The last battle. You have to take the fight to them. If you examine their attack pattern, you will learn where they move and attack. It's scripted, so if you know it, you can begin to plan your counterattack. You don't have enough non lethal/less than lethal projectiles to "shoot" all of them, but you have enough to incapacitate most of them, and hand-to-hand KO the others. And leave Grinko for last. If you KO him then, there will be noone to revive him ;).
So handling this "KO only" is the same as the other battles in the game - learn where they move, use LTL projectiles wisely, punch the rest and you'll make it.
Okay, this sounded like a walkthrough entry, but this is the trick of it - and I don't have the patience to make a "run there, KO this, move there, shoot this" battle walkthrough - you'll manage, don't worry, just keep trying...:thumb: :cool:
EDIT: Oh, just to be clear: you cannot ghost this part. They will see you, and they will shoot at you, but still, it can be done without taking any damage, and KOing everyone...
