242 on 18/3/2009 at 19:16
Quote Posted by Matthew
Can I just ask, is there a suggestion that a 50-foot tall Stalin sprite is going to make everyone
forget that he was a paranoid, mass-murdering crazy?
Many even don't know in the first place, and some try to hide the truth (in order to "raise patriotism") that he was a paranoid, mass-murdering crazy.
Turtle on 18/3/2009 at 19:29
Wait.
So then people can't play Call of Duty, because then they might not know that the Brits firebombed Dresden, right?
242 on 18/3/2009 at 19:52
Quote Posted by Turtle
Wait.
So then people can't play Call of Duty, because then they might not know that the Brits firebombed Dresden, right?
You missed the point why it bothers me. In Russia, currently, Stalin is often displayed as a positive person, he became a national hero for many Russians in the past 10 or so years, actually maybe even for majority already, it just takes a dangerous form. It's a totally different situation than in Germany with Hitler, where state clearly calls him a criminal.
Look at D'Spair's reaction for example, he cares about Stalin it seems.
Muzman on 18/3/2009 at 20:30
All the Hitler mockery over the years didn't really disuade any neo-nazis, I'm sure. Admittedly there's less of them. All the same this does look plainly like mockery; making him out to be an absurd folk hero, old time propaganda style. I think (hope) most people would see this along side real attempts to idolise the guy and get it, even if his big fans take it the wrong way.
Zygoptera on 18/3/2009 at 21:09
242, if you really want to dissuade Russians from liking Stalin point out that (like most leaders of the USSR) Georgian Joe wasn't even Russian and that he's immensely popular in Georgia for being the man who killed the most Russians in history.
june gloom on 18/3/2009 at 21:50
ahahahaha
you win sir
for once
242 on 18/3/2009 at 22:02
Quote Posted by Zygoptera
242, if you really want to dissuade Russians from liking Stalin point out that (like most leaders of the USSR) Georgian Joe wasn't even Russian
Russians know that, really all, and too many like him anyway.
Marlow on 18/3/2009 at 22:03
D'Spair is hilarious once again, pretending not to know anything about WW2 history.
Actually, WW2 started as a synchronised action of a Soviet-German alliance dividing Central Europe between the two powers. It was only later that Stalin changed teams when Hitler betrayed him.
And 242, I think, is overreacting a bit - from what I've read about the game, it's actually a kick in the balls for Stalin hero-worship, and hopefully quite an efficient one.
And the fact that in today's Russia Stalin is commonly regarded as one of the greatest leaders of the country is MORE than scary.
d'Spair on 18/3/2009 at 23:01
I know some of the folks who develop this thing. They are cool guys who are just trying to have fun.
I know a couple of pals who think the game is insulting and controversial. They are both, well, idiots - not because of the fact they don't like the game, they are just idiots in general. 242 seems not to like the game too.
It is always cool when one is able to have fun of oneself. This ability always help to separate normal people from nervous paranoics.
Oh yes, it always looks quite funny when people outside of Russia start to teach me, the Russian, history lessons about Stalin deeds or whatever happened to my country.
