fett on 11/2/2013 at 21:31
I think a lot could be done with Origin stories. I've also always been in favor of a post-Jedi West Wing style movie/TV show that focuses on the political and military issues surrounding establishing a government. There's the Political aspect that could feature government higher-ups sorting things out on Coruscant, while Rogue Squadron, led by Wedge Antilles, could root out remaining resistance and infiltrate Empire loyal governments as a type of SEAL team. This is how the expanded universe began and frankly, it was more complex and mature than the films. None of this would require appearances of the original major characters, could be set in the same universe, and go anywhere they wanted it to.
Nah, fuck that. Let's get Shia Lebouf (orwhateverthefuck) to face a resurrected Darth Vader as Luke's long lost, hunky brother. Also we need Scarlet Johansen fore r03q2oi3rlhk32nrp09;8OELIS.KDFHANEW[FA09WOPFUJHADNSA[D09FILKNFADSOILFKAJ2019U89HAEO7AWE]F
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Renault on 11/2/2013 at 21:57
Quote Posted by fett
I've also always been in favor of a post-Jedi West Wing style movie/TV show that focuses on the political and military issues surrounding establishing a government.
No offense, but this sounds really boring. And quite frankly, it sounds like The Phantom Menace.
SubJeff on 11/2/2013 at 22:10
It sounds dull as hell and why would it need to be done in the Star Wars universe at all?
Pyrian on 11/2/2013 at 22:19
Star Wars is Lightsaber Duels. Everything else is window dressing. If there aren't Lightsaber Duels, it might as well be another setting. (Star Trek is Teleporter Beams.) :p
heywood on 12/2/2013 at 00:27
Quote Posted by Brethren
I won't say any of the above negative comments are wrong, but...are you guys telling me you won't actually go see it when it comes out? :erm: Riiiiiiiiight.... You'll be forking out your $10-15 like everyone else.
I won't. Honest. If Lucas were making them, and you could convince me he'd learned his lessons, then I'd give them a chance. But I'm not interested in a Star Wars flick made by anybody else. As much as people slag on him (deservedly so), I don't think anybody else can make a Star Wars film that would feel authentic. I DO NOT want to watch a generic vapid space action popcorn flick with Star Wars branding, which is what I expect you'll get from Disney and JJ Abrams.
Star Trek was not Star Trek, if you know what I mean.
fett on 12/2/2013 at 02:38
Quote Posted by Brethren
No offense, but this sounds really boring. And quite frankly, it sounds like The Phantom Menace.
Yeah, it does, but so does West Wing and other politically based shows. But it's the main setting for a 9 novel series that is the best thing to ever happen in the expanded universe. It has the trappings of the original movies but the political/military details lend it a maturity much needed by older fans. Lots of conflict both external and internal, political maneuverings, and great espionage and dog fight scenarios. That would be my perfect TV show in any universe...
Scots Taffer on 12/2/2013 at 05:38
Love ya fett, but that's some bad weed you're smoking to reckon that's a cinematic concept for the use of the SW universe...
What about a story set in the world of bounty hunters (that spawned Boba Fett) and mixed in with the Hutts of the universe etc, what about a story where someone like Luke (even in his old age) being responsible for tracking down those displaying signs of the force (almost like X-Men Origins but with Jedis), what about a private detective investigating stuff that leads him into the murky underworld of ex-empire gun runners & criminal enforcers using a couple of appropriated star destroyers to intimidate outlying galaxies... there's fucking tons of awesome cinematic potential for the taking.
To be honest, I'd rather watch a dumbed down prequel trilogy on threepeat than watch a political thriller set in the SW universe - what a fucking waste.
Sulphur on 12/2/2013 at 06:32
I'm more concerned about far more topical things for the Star Wars universe. Now that Ralph McQuarrie has passed away, we're not even going to get awe-inspiring set designs mixed with Lucas's overwhelming sense of antiseptic sterility to the proceedings. (Checking his credits, I see he refused the offer to work on the prequels. No wonder it seemed like the level of imagination in the sets had taken a sharp turn for the prosaic and pedestrian.) Stuart Freeborn passed away a few days ago, too, so no effervescent bubblings that result in characters like Chewie or Yoda either. The more I look at it, the more apparent it is that George's vision only really stood out because of his collaborators.
So I'm gonna have to make a stand for this new trilogy. I don't care if it's Disney. Star Wars is an institution now, a cultural t-rex whose bulky shadow looms over your entire country, wiggling its tiny arms in an effort to show it still has impact on people today. I'm going to start a petition for a couple of things because Star Wars is bigger than a couple of films - it needs to be relevant, and it needs to take up arms for a cause, because it has a responsibility to the public, to the current generation, and the generations to come. It can no longer afford to ignore the world at large to harken back to those simpler times of romantic sci-fi ideals of wanting to make love to your sister. Our new world is grittier, and Star Wars needs to show it's willing to be inclusive and embrace it with both of its shaggy arms. This is how:-
One: the lead character in the new trilogy must be a hispanic bounty hunter/smarmbrowed rebel with a long-time best friend of afro-american descent who was trained in the ways of the trandoshans/wookies/banthas/whatever I've left out
Two: they must both be either male or female, in a long-term romantic relationship, and the script must be laced with salty light-saber innuendo
Three: they survive an ethnic cleansing run that infiltrates the galaxy's new government, which is actually a sinister plot hatched by Anakin's twin sister - whom he had strangled to death and consumed before birth, but bided her time in the nebulous causeways of the Force, and coalesced into existence by channelling her powers after he dies - and brings the Sith back as a creeping, nefarious force that's far more difficult to contend with
Four: an ewok genocide plot that succeeds ('like a million voices meeped adorably in terror, and then had their faces punched into the back of their heads')
Five: Carrie Fisher needs to make a cameo, dressed in the gold bikini she wore in Return of the Jedi, but at her current age (this is for Queue)
Put down your vote for a more inclusive Star Wars. After all, it's your cultural responsibility to ensure your art forms are just as culturally responsible.
Briareos H on 12/2/2013 at 09:18
Quote Posted by heywood
I won't. Honest. If Lucas were making them, and you could convince me he'd learned his lessons, then I'd give them a chance. But I'm not interested in a Star Wars flick made by anybody else.
So you boycotted Empire Strikes Back?
Thirith on 12/2/2013 at 10:24
For me, it's more the other way around - if Lucas is too involved (I don't want him anywhere near the director's chair or writing the damn script) I'm automatically much less likely to want to see the films. He may be good as an ideas man (and that's a very big 'may'), but he can't write or direct to save his life.
