Ulukai on 12/3/2010 at 13:46

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I thought oversight might have be an explanation for you regurgitating, out of the blue, a point that cropped up 3 days ago. My bad.

But apparently not, and now you've gone all defensive on me. So where to from here, Holmes?

Enchantermon on 12/3/2010 at 14:29

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:laff:

Ulukai on 12/3/2010 at 15:41

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Damn you Sir, not even Robert Downey Jr. could have gotten away with that one.

baeuchlein on 12/3/2010 at 18:46

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Yes, that was what wrecked my distro some months ago. After another try with Opera, it was finally dead.

Most examples of heeding backward compatibility seem to be less disastrous, but it's still not funny, although Windows isn't much better at times.

Anyway, I think if Valve wanted to publish Steam for Linux, they'd better take the route suggested by Jason Moyer, attempting to make it run with environments (meaning libraries and possibly other program interfaces) that may be present in the majority of all Linux distributions. That way, they would have more potential customers.

And whether Ubuntu will still be out there in some years is another question. Some years ago, it was SuSE, and SuSE only, here in Germany. At least if you believed all those who couldn't resist telling us that at least two times a week.

Renzatic on 13/3/2010 at 20:07

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You would've been a more productive member of society. Living up to the high standards given us by the advent of open source software has a tendency to do that to people. Also, you'd probably smell bad.

My experiences with Linux has been a love it/hate it affair. Once I got past my bitchy why the hell do I have to spend days googling crap omg this is stupid phase, I found alot to like. The efficiency, the security, the flexibility, the myriad ways you can customize things to your whims, the fact you get all this for free...there's alot there to like. But then I to contend with the biggest problem any Linux fan has to face. As you put it:



...or rather, I have everything set up super keen and neat, now what the fuck do I do? I guess I could check the internet using the 64 bit version of Chrome I just installed. Hmm. Porno and TTLG. Fun. But now I want to make something. Guess I'll get an image editing program. GIMP. Hmm, it's alright, but I like Photoshop better. Guess I'll have to fire up Wine. Hmm. My legit version of CS3 doesn't work in Wine. Guess I'll have to warez CS2. Hmm. It works alright, but not as smoothly as CS3 does in Windows. Eh, it works at least. Now I want to make a model. Hmm. Modo doesn't work in Wine. My only option as far as a good modeler goes is to get Silo working in Wine. Thing is, I already spent a boatload of money on Modo, and don't want to spend an extra $120 on Silo just so I can model in Linux. Guess there's Blender, but...like hell I'm gonna demean myself by using Blender.

:goes back to Windows:

...eh. I miss my virtual desktop (yeah, I started using them), nautilus scripts, speedy bootup and shut down times, and all the neat things I could do with Compiz Fusion. But at least all my shit works now, and works well with only a minimal amount of fuss getting it working.

So what is Linux to me? Linux is awesome...potentially. But it will only ever become viable when the OSS community either produces programs that can truly compete with (and maybe even surpass) the big guys in terms of features and ease of use, or gets over itself and adopts a slightly more friendly attitude towards advertisement and closed source commercial software.