Renzatic on 9/2/2011 at 17:51
Yup. The big news now is how Sony is demanding Google turn over the IP addresses for everyone that watched and/or commented on the Geohotz hack-a-PS3 video on Youtube.
There are a few reasons why Sony will fall flat on its face in court. For one, the lawsuit states the Geohotz hack breaks Sony owned hardware. Considering you buy a PS3 in stores, with no mention of a lease or rental plan issued during purchase. Bad move on their part. It's assumed you own the hardware. Secondly, the hack doesn't allow for playing backups, just for running your own code. No piracy involved.
It's the same issue Apple went through when they went apeshit over people jailbreaking the iPad. It was deemed legal since people are allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the hardware they've bought, provided it doesn't breach the DMCA. I have a feeling this will end up the same way in court for Sony. They're retreading old ground already covered by everyone from Apple to Autodesk.
The only difference is that Sony is somehow managing to be even more incredibly belligerent about it than the aforementioned companies.
lost_soul on 9/2/2011 at 19:07
(
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/02/08/sony_ps3_downgrade_breach_marketing_control_act/) Norway to probe Sony's PS3 Linux 'downgrade'
"Norway's Consumer Council claims Sony breached the Norwegian Marketing Control Act, by withdrawing a key feature after sale. It says Sony's terms of service are unreasonable and leave the consumer without any legal protection."
It is nice to know that not EVERYONE in this world is either
A: bought off, or
B: corrupt
june gloom on 9/2/2011 at 19:13
c: a fucking crazycakes entitlement-whore who thinks we invaded Iraq/Afghanistan to export the DMCA
Renzatic on 9/2/2011 at 19:21
Yeah. Everyone knows we invaded Iraq for...I dunno...blood or something. I can't be expected to remember this shit. I mean this happened, what? 2-3 years ago? I've slept since then.
lost_soul on 9/2/2011 at 20:57
Here's an honest question for you. When you first got your PS3 and/or you upgraded it, did you have to read and accept an EULA? I'm not a console gamer anymore, but one of the things I always loved about consoles was that I wasn't subjected to things like that.
More over, what if you are one of the guys who paid the store to upgrade it for you? You didn't read and accept the imaginary piece of paper in this case, yet you're still using the software. The same goes for PCs: most people don't build or service their own. I'll bet a lot of the users never even saw the EULA because the system was set up by a techie friend.
Jason Moyer on 9/2/2011 at 22:14
Quote Posted by dethtoll
c: a fucking crazycakes entitlement-whore who thinks we invaded Iraq/Afghanistan to export the DMCA
I know where you're coming from, but if you buy something largely because of a specific feature that the product already contains (i.e. it's not just a future promise) and then the company that sells it removes that feature you probably have a legitimate beef.
lost_soul on 9/2/2011 at 22:44
This whole incident may also be a GOOD thing for PC gamers. Now that the game is over on this particular console, I predict that the company will want to release a new system sooner. This means that games will no longer be limited to a baseline of hardware from 2006.
Your 8-gig-of-RAM pc may see games that fully push its capabilities sooner.
Duncan on 9/2/2011 at 23:11
Quote Posted by van HellSing
This code basically overrides all the restrictions, allowing to run whatever is written with the PS3 architecture
Ah yes, thank you for the brain jolt. I now recall seeing some code like this (or maybe it was this one?) pop up a long time ago and everyone blowing loads over it. Very cool.
Sg3 on 9/2/2011 at 23:29
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Yup. The big news now is how Sony is demanding Google turn over the IP addresses for everyone that watched and/or commented on the Geohotz hack-a-PS3 video on Youtube.
So that's what's next—suing people for opening a video link? Ha-ha. Crazy world.
Renzatic on 10/2/2011 at 01:44
I think it's because they're trying to find all the people involved in creating the hack. They're not actually intending on suing everyone who watched the video.
Still, it's overkill, and more than kinda stupid.
