Subtle differences between the US and the UK that baffle me/you/us. - by SubJeff
june gloom on 14/12/2012 at 18:41
Quote Posted by DaBeast
Tipping is a bit more than expected in America and it really annoys me.
IMHO its a pretty big difference in attitude for something so trivial. Yes employees in service get a really low wage and have to make their living on tips. Why is that my responsibility as a customer to help someone pay their mortgage or education fees or w/e. Why should a waiter, who could potentially earn a hundred dollars an hour for 5 minutes of work, earn more than a nurse?
If you seriously think the average Denny's waitress earns more than a nurse in this country you are dumber than previously believed, and that's hard to do for an anti-Semite. Or maybe just misinformed, but we're gonna go with dumb. And also you're kind of an asshole if you're seriously not going to tip the fucking wait staff. Those people depend on tips just to pay their bills -- they're not actually being paid a living wage
because tips are factored into it. Unless a law comes along saying wait staff have to be paid more than peanuts, guess what? You'd better give them a tip. Doesn't have to be a big one, you don't have to slip a Benjamin into the wine glass like Orson Welles, but generally at least 10-15% is considered appropriate. Because it's the right thing to do. Don't like it, don't eat in the US, and certainly don't complain about it you slackjawed junkslut.
I've worked in the restaurant biz. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fucking customers, especially ungrateful shitheads who complain about the food, treat the servers like garbage and demand to be waited on hand and foot (nevermind that the servers have other tables to deal with) and leave horrible gunk on the plates that weren't there on the way out that I have to scrape off. Fuck, people like you make me angry. You're why I will never work in food service ever again, no matter how broke I get.
DDL on 14/12/2012 at 18:54
I kinda think his point was just that: "they're not actually being paid a living wage because tips are factored into it" -this is the problem.
It takes the entire "tipping for good service" idea and inverts it: you're now tipping regardless of service because, quite simply, you're now the primary source of income for your waiter, not his or her actual employer. If you don't tip, they'll starve, so you tip not because the service was great but because you don't want to be responsible for someone fucking starving.
nicked on 14/12/2012 at 19:16
Wait a minute... this entire thread has turned into the opening of Reservoir Dogs.
june gloom on 14/12/2012 at 19:17
Yeeees, and I covered that didn't I? Read my post please.
god dammit nicked get out of the way
Thirith on 14/12/2012 at 19:17
Whatever dethtoll is, he ain't Harvey Keitel.
DaBeast on 14/12/2012 at 20:13
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I saw your name, didn't read what you or anyone else said, I'm just in the mood for arguing badly
Wilful ignorance, petty insults and digging up a shitstorm you started months(last year?), desperate to stir shit up much?
Quote Posted by DDL
I kinda think his point was just that: "they're not actually being paid a living wage because tips are factored into it" -this is the
problem.
It takes the entire "tipping for good service" idea and inverts it: you're now tipping
regardless of service because, quite simply, you're now the primary source of income for your waiter, not his or her actual
employer. If you don't tip, they'll starve, so you tip not because the service was great but because you don't want to be responsible for someone fucking starving.
Yes
SD on 14/12/2012 at 20:29
Quote Posted by Chimpy Chompy
Oh another for the list of awful british words: nosh. Or noshing. Totally unacceptable unless you're a character in the Beano.
I dispute that, it's also acceptable if you just got a blowjob off a teenage girl.
june gloom on 14/12/2012 at 21:00
Quote Posted by DaBeast
Wilful ignorance, petty insults and digging up a shitstorm you started months(last year?), desperate to stir shit up much?
Petty insults, maybe, but everything else you said is in opposition to reality. At what point was any part of my post a result of "willful ignorance?"
I was responding to your post, in which you displayed your
own willful ignorance ("DUR HUR U.S. WAITRESSES MAKE MORE THAN NURSES DUR HUR") and a staggering lack of compassion for other people, you ungrateful bastard. And anyway, I'm not the one who made a horribly anti-Semitic comment and then tried to say "CALM DOWN WAS JUST JOKE :)" -- you are, so no I don't have a lot of respect for bigots, especially entitled ones like you. Why don't you actually try answering my original post like a man instead of whining about how I'm so mean to you?
faetal on 14/12/2012 at 21:46
Quote Posted by DaBeast
The rationale is, that if your steering wheel in on the left side of the car you should drive on the right side of the road. The driver has a better command of vision and awareness around him that way, I could well be wrong, but that's what I've always thought.
Was there a system for horse and cart, as a highway code of ye olde days?
Probably unrelated, but over here there was a common curtsey type of thing to move on the left in a corridor or building or w/e.
Yes, but this is irrelevant since in the US, cars have the steering wheel on the left hand side and on the UK, it is on the right hand side. I was wondering why anyone has any reason to think one is better. I'm not talking about side of road vs. side of steering wheel I'm talking why either would be better, given that there is symmetry making them the same.
