lordhern on 2/12/2021 at 07:36
Quote Posted by fortuni
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Start anew, clean install, new FM loader and please
never go back to Darkloader, you will appreciate this advise in the long run.
This. full stop.
Cardia on 2/12/2021 at 08:11
I remember a time where darkloader used to work well, but i admit for some time this loader is prone to do errors with missions installing. Guess i'll have to stick with fm loader.
Thank you for your recommendations :thumb:
baeuchlein on 2/12/2021 at 15:33
There is a wide variation in how much trouble people have with DarkLoader. Some can still use it with no problems, others have serious problems every now and then. The main problem with DarkLoader appears to be that if it has a problem while installing a mission, the chances are moderate to high that it cannot uninstall the mission completely, and the player is left with a messed-up Thief folder/directory that is rather hard to clean up. This is not the case with the modern loaders and NewDark, since the missions are not installed in the Thief folder/directory anymore, thus no corruption of that does occur. This technique was not available with "Old Dark", though, so there was little alternative for DarkLoader back in these dark(loaderish) times.
lordhern on 2/12/2021 at 16:05
Quote Posted by baeuchlein
There is a wide variation in how much trouble people have with DarkLoader.
Some can still use it with no problems, others have serious problems every now and then. The main problem with DarkLoader appears to be that
if it has a problem while installing a mission, the chances are moderate to high that it cannot uninstall the mission completely, and the player is left with a messed-up Thief folder/directory that is rather hard to clean up. This is not the case with the modern loaders and NewDark, since the missions are
not installed in the Thief folder/directory anymore, thus no corruption of that does occur. This technique was not available with "Old Dark", though, so there was little alternative for DarkLoader back in these dark(loaderish) times.
My only success was using snapshots of my old-dark VM - after playing an FM I would restore the snapshot. darkloader is renamed "demonloader" on my system because it cannot reliably handle FM switching.
baeuchlein on 2/12/2021 at 20:45
Well, as I said, there is a wide variation in DarkLoader demonity. For me, the language selection does not work anymore, but everything else seems to work normally. However, I only use DarkLoader for testing something here and there. I use the more modern loaders for gaming now, and they work well enough.
vfig on 5/12/2021 at 00:47
DML patch for those experiencing performance problems on the streets due to excessive particles:this greatly reduces the number of particles used to shroud the streets below. it also enables the normal efficiency mode for these particles and the dust mote particles in some rooms in the mission, so they don't take any cpu time when not visible.
* (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r656ivqyavnk17d/Lonmore-v1.2-lessparticles.zip?dl=1) download from Dropbox
* unzip the files into the FM's folder (e.g.
c:\Thief2\FMs\Lonmore-v1_2\)
fortuni on 5/12/2021 at 02:03
Does this dml make any difference to the look of the mission, guessing if it massively reduces the number of particles in the shroud then it would. I'm wondering whether to get this dml included in the next FMDML package, but if it significantly changes the look of the mission then probably best to leave it as a purely optional dml.
fortuni on 5/12/2021 at 02:39
Thanks, looks like you did a good job. I'll ask Beltzer his opinion but I'm thinking it would be best to include the dml in the next FMDML.
