Gloria Creep on 15/4/2011 at 23:45

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The big gate can't be opened, but there is a lever onto the right of this area which opens another way out of there. Just make sure you take all the loot in this area en also look up!

BTW: You can kill the bats also with just one well placed broadhead arrow :ebil:

Gloria Creep :angel:

baeuchlein on 18/4/2011 at 12:14

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I believe the earth talisman is the one found down there in the crypts. The other one is far away from there - you can find it in a secret passage which is located to the right of Gheorge's hut. Gheorge is the gravedigger, if you don't know him by name. The one where you got your staff from, I believe.

I think you can continue outwards with Mina for now and get the second talisman later.

Sensut on 18/4/2011 at 18:01

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"garrett says what happened " , that's the problem, his name is Gellert. You have not read all of the messages/letters and you can't find your way out. There is nothing to do with talismans to get out from there, they are just loot bonuses. Find your way out from the catacombs without any extras, and loot after. (follow the blood trails in the catacombs)

baeuchlein on 20/4/2011 at 13:24

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This hole full of water is far away from the secret passage. With "to the right of Gheorge's hut" I meant that you should stand before the hut (facing the door - meaning the water hole will be behind you, then), and then walk around its right side wall. The hut is the one in which dead Gheorge lies on the floor, if I remember that correctly. Gellert should say his "what happened here?" line in there, commenting on the mess there, but in your case it was triggered while you were above the right spot. Weird, but it will not break the mission.

Anyway... If you circle the outside of this hut (hugging its walls), you should be able to find the secret passage. I do not remember more details at the moment, though. But it's really very close to the hut. You should find the missing talisman in there, as well as another secret passage (I think) into the fortress' moat (the "river" before it), which might provide a comfortable shortcut for returning to the fortress as well as Dracula's castle.

As others have said, you do not need the missing talisman to leave the crypts/catacombs below the castle. So you don't need to reload an old game and play the whole fortress and castle part again.

Instead, you can follow the blood spots on the ground of the catacombs to reach the other end of the catacomb area. You will find a zombie there, standing behind some kind of "counter" or table. If you're there and cannot proceed, look into the following spoiler.

There are two golden skulls on the front of the "counter". One of them has to be pressed (frobbed); just try both if you don't know which one. This will open a door in the same room, leading to a spiral staircase.

At the upper end of the stairs, there is a room with haunts which you may have seen before, from the other side of the iron bars. If you can't continue from there, search near the coffins not far from the door to the spiral staircase. Somewhere there, maybe near the iron bars, there is another lever which you can pick up. I think there is a slot for this lever near another door on the other side of the room. Walk up the passage behind it, and you will emerge on a tower in the Ottoman fortress which you visited earlier.

You may wonder how to get out of the fortress with Mina resting unconsciously on your back. Jumping into the water may result in a drowned Mina, and Mr. Harker wouldn't like that. So, you have to exit through the main gate. At first, it looks like just another "lever puzzle" (find the lever, insert it into the slot not far from the door, use it, and - surprise, surprise! - the door will open), until you arrive at the iron gate opposite the fortress' entrance. You will most likely find it closed now.

To proceed from there, put Mina down near this gate, then go back through the fortress' main entrance. Pull the lever again. The fortress' door closes again, but the iron gate near which you placed Mina will open at the same time. Think of an airlock or something similar. Standard Ottoman security device.;)

You have to leave the way you came in. Get on the battlements on top of the fortress' outer wall, then climb over it. (Or does one have to leave through a window in this version of the mission? I'm not certain anymore.) I do not remember whether you could directly jump into the water below or had to use a rope arrow again, but I think you'll find it out quickly. Go back to Mina and pick her up again, and you can finally leave the fortress' area.

From there, it's not a long walk to Gheorghe's place, as you may remember. You can leave Mina there, pick up the talisman, return to the catacombs and use both talismans (or rather talismen?:p) in the appropriate spot. I think it was fairly obvious where that spot was. If not, ask again once you're down there.

Get your reward, walk out again, pick up Mina, walk towards the spot where you started the mission (Borgo Pass), and it's finally done!

baeuchlein on 25/4/2011 at 13:15

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The bedroom is the carpenter's bedroom, I believe. I do not remember how to proceed exactly, since my old notes for this part of the mission are very vague. However, there should be a key in the carpenter's room, maybe on a bookcase or shelf. This key is easily overlooked, my notes say. I think it's the key to the throne room. Another key which I did not see the first time I played the mission was one that's lying on a book in the throne room, so keep that in mind once you get there.

If the key in the carpenter's rooms does not open the throne room doors, you might have to pick the lock. I do not remember the details, but I am sure that you enter the throne room "the usual way", meaning via the door. You don't have to climb to a window or anything else which would be unusual, at least for ordinary people - who knows what thieves call "unusual"?;)

If I remember it correctly, you have to get into the throne room before you'll get near the turbine room. If you do not know how to proceed after the throne room, read on.

After passing through the throne room, you will find a tower behind it. Ascend to the top to find another key (or key-like object). This will open a way into some tunnels below the castle.

The entrance to these tunnels is located in a courtyard very close to the point where the mission started. You will find a lock in this courtyard which can be unlocked with the key from the tower. But you have to do something else here until you can enter the tunnels.

If you can't figure out how to gain entrance after using the key, look around in the courtyard again. There is an archery target there, and you have to shoot an arrow into the upper part of it. Aim at the point where the "12" would be on a clock - the upper end of the target. If you hit it and have used the key from the tower, there should be an open door near the lock now, leading to a crypt. A stone sarcophagus should have moved away, and some stairs should be visible, leading down. I believe you will find that turbine room down there, but maybe some distance away.

Before you go far in these tunnels, however, have a look at your objectives first. There should be one objective saying "Check your notes" (or something similar), and you should make sure it's marked as "done" by now. If not, then you forgot to read your notes, which were lying on the ground at the starting point of the mission. Do so now, for if you don't, you have to go all the way back to the starting point later on just to get this objective checked!

If the objective is checked, you may leave the castle area without any further thought. The turbine room should be located in an abandoned mill which you will find later on, if my memory is right.