smithpd on 8/1/2007 at 02:43

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I agree. That would fix the vacant stare of the guards, which is a little disconcerting after a while.

This is an excellent mission!:thumb: I just finished the mission in Ghost mode (expert, no alerts, no damage), and I think the game play is very good. It was diffucult, yes, but the ghosting by itself was not so difficult (for a ghoster). There are plenty of places to hide. The most interesting ghosting challenge for me was getting a green vase in an upper level without making noise and retrieving the ropes.

My main challenge was finding routes in the midst of the dense AI. The design of the AI patrols is excellent in that regard. The police station was interesting.:)

As Dafydd said, I found myself going around in circles trying to find routes. That may be the intent. If so, it is not bad, and it adds to the challenge. If not the intent, a map would help.

I needed help from the forum in three areas: two keys on the ground and finding the engine. Actually, I entered the engine room by myself, but somehow I missed the chest.:tsktsk:

Stats:
time - 4:05
loot - 1490 / 1700
pockets 12/13
damage 0, etc.

Another thing. I could not drop down to the pipe used to enter the church / weapon room window without taking damage, so I had to bypass that area.

Thanks for a very entertaining few days of game play! :D

smithpd on 9/1/2007 at 17:34

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There is a trick method to ghosting the police station:[SPOILER]Don't use the stairs. Rope up through the small hole in the ceiling near the entry. Come back down the same hole.[/SPOILER]After that, there are hiding places.:)

smithpd on 14/1/2007 at 19:41

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That door is opened with a key, so for sure you don't have enough keys. Check posts about locations of keys. Maybe someone will come along who knows....

taffedinthehead on 28/1/2007 at 17:30

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I wish there were a version of this with knock-outable guards. Does anyone know if expert has any different objectives in it other than the extra loot and non-killing?

RarRar on 19/2/2007 at 22:09

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I just started this one myself and WOW. It's probably one of the best ones I've played in a LONG time. I love big city missions with lots of hidden nooks and rooftop hijinks. Normally I DESPISE helmet guards you can't blackjack. This time though... I dunno, maybe it's the mood I'm in but I think it makes the whole experience so much more fun and interesting rather than frustrating. Probably has to do with the fun I had luring all the guards I could into a single spot where I could gas 'em Haw haw haw! 13 guards gassed using just two gas mines! I dare anyone to beat that!

Sometimes people have complained about how unrealistic it is for some FMs to have so many guards patrolling. The guard density in this one is the highest I've ever seen in any FM. I prefer challenging and fun over realistic any day of the week. Right now I'm in the police station. There are so many KO-proof guards milling around the whole thing seems completely impossible to get through. So each time I penetrate farther and explore more it seems like such a huge accomplishment. I believe I'll actually be getting out of there alive fairly soon!

I don't like ghost missions, especially forced ghosting. Bleh. This one is good because I have to ghost most of the mission but since I have one gas arrow and one gas mine left I can choose which parts to ghost and which parts not to. That choice there makes the whole situation rather palatable and appealing. I can't wait to spend another couple of hours there this evening.