Haplo on 27/6/2020 at 01:04
Thanks for the translation!
TaffedTooMuch on 17/2/2021 at 11:00
I've got a problem with this one lately. Switch item in inventory transports one to his partner on use sometimes, at random it seems. So both thieves are stuck on the same side of one of them. Very rarely it also multiplies them so I get three thieves instead of two. Would be an awesome way to create an army of taffers then go raid some Bafford's but I fear I can't complete the mission this way. :cheeky:
I run NewDark 1.27, get this with both in-built FMSel and DarkLoader. It certainly never happened on older versions, more so, it still works right with old saves. So it looks as if some scripts aren't loaded when I begin the mission. Still, there is no warning note nearby Garrett's starting place about that.
fortuni on 17/2/2021 at 13:37
Do you know which version of ND 1.27 your using? The current one is 1.27d released July 2020
We extensive tested this mission with Zappenduster, Apiai, Baeuchlien, Jax, Glypher and myself all involved in testing when the translated files were made and none of us experienced anything like your describing. We tested using ND 1.27c
My concern is that you say you have played this mission using Darkloader, why was that? If you have played using Darkloader, if you play any mission ever using Darkloader or in anyway still have Darkloader on your computer, external HD, back of a cupboard or even the laundry basket, any save you upload for us to investigate may be useless as DL may have corrupted your Thief install.
We probably can only fully investigate this if you use a completely clean Thief install, replay the mission and upload 2 saves, one just before the 3rd thief appears and another once he has appeared.
But send us any saves you have anyway, never know we may be able to see what's going on.
baeuchlein on 19/2/2021 at 01:21
I have been testing a bit with NewDark 1.27 made with T2Fix v1.27d, and mainly with DarkLoader for playing the mission. Difficulty level was Normal, OS was an ancient Windows Vista SP2. In very specific circumstances, I was able to make one of the two player characters go over to the other one's side. However, it was mainly a glitch occurring when the player runs towards a gate or fence at the places where Garrett and Palmer are meant to meet and exchange items, and using the switch function while approaching the gate/fence. Saving a game right before "glitching through a fence" was useless; after reloading such a savegame, "glitching through" simply didn't work anymore, while it worked repeatedly just before saving that game. Saving after one of the two characters crossed over to the other one's side worked; one could reload that game, and the two were still on the same side.
I never had a third thief appear. I also never experienced that one thief character was teleported towards the other one's location if both had some distance between them.
Hm. Could this be an issue with the Multiplayer patch applied again? I did not check that so far...
Haplo on 22/2/2021 at 04:44
I can't remember how I set up the player swapping system (it's been over ten years!), but I'm pretty sure I wrote a tutorial for it here on TTLG.
From what you are describing it seems like either one of the scripting elements is not getting its ON or OFF signal, or getting it out of order.
EDIT: Found the tutorial: (
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133738)
Esse on 22/2/2021 at 05:52
Unbelievable. Never would I think before now that the Dark Engine, Newdark or otherwise, was capable of player character swapping. I think I would've recalled if I'd tried out this mission, so the moment I have a chance I'm going to download this and play it. Thank you for the helpful tutorial you posted along with this FM, too!
Gabe29 on 25/2/2021 at 21:44
It seems I can't play the mission for some reason, I get the note outside telling me NVscript is not working properly even on a clean T2Fix installation. Any help?
Gabe29 on 26/2/2021 at 08:20
Hi, I am already on that version and it still wouldn't work. But I did get it to work hopefully, all I did was copy and rename NVScript.osm from the OSM folder to NVS.osm which overwrites the old version used by the mission. So far it seems to work fine, character switching and everything.
Samantha1 on 16/3/2021 at 19:57
Quote Posted by zappenduster
This unique FM with two characters is now playable in german and french, too. The ZIP contains an additional DML to fix some minor problems and to enable the multi-language display of some objects which have been defined in DromEd. :)
Thanks to Haplo (Author), Glypher and Apiai (DML) and again Apiai (version française). :thumb:
DL: (
http://0815x.de/thief/FMs/ats_ENDEFR.zip) http://0815x.de/thief/FMs/ats_ENDEFR.zip, mirrors welcome. :D
Damn Zappen, I saw your post too late! But that´s just one more reason to replay this awesome mission and I definitely WILL replay this one... especially now that I can play it in german :D Thanks so much!!
