Soul Tear on 2/2/2022 at 17:30
zappenduster, why did you add Russian and Italiano in zip archives and not in folders like French and German? Players can't install translate via AngelLoader. Many people do not understand the Thief file system.
Galaer on 2/2/2022 at 20:29
Mission beaten in 4 hours and I barely completed loot objective with 3100 loot and 9 secrets. I must say that loot objective is very tough on Expert. I needed extra 1 hour to gather enough loot. Afterwards I played for 1,5 hour and raised my loot to 3690 and got 2 bonus objectives. Mission is interesting. It has a lot of places to explore. The idea of non highlighting candles to douse, helmet guards immune to blackjack and their extreme sensitivity were at first weird ideas, but after figuring out the rules, they became interesting features. I liked the story in Mechanist Temple and overall intrigue. But there are some flaws.
First - never say that your mission is linear and don't ask players to complete main objectives first and then explore and loot, because you don't want them to break sequence of events, if your mission isn't linear. After bank's raid I got 2 main tasks to complete, but no clear direction where to go. I obviously noticed there is way to 2nd part of city unlocked, but mission is supposed to be linear. There was something new in city watch, but nothing that could complete any of main objectives and no hint where to go next. I was worried that I missed something important in bank or city watch (spoiler: I didn't) and by progressing to next area I will break sequence of events that you, author, warned me about. That was very annoying to find out that I have been lied. If you worried about skipping by players bank's raid, you could include it in mission 1. It would end inside bank's vent instead of Garrett's house. Mission 2 would start in mentioned vent, but it would be fully non linear. This would avoid my confusion.
Next is finding mastermind objective. Why did you make accountant to be mastermind? He just overheard the whole conversation, but he did nothing wrong, but you made him mastermind. Person who made this plan was chief and director's book explains that much better and the one who contacted and double crossed Garrett was Mr F. But none of them is mastermind, but some random person who overheard the whole conversation? This doesn't make any sense. Plus his place is extremely well hidden. It should count as one of secrets as not even one readable mentions how to find this place. In other words this objective is really unfair and I needed to check this thread to complete it.
And also I have a question - what's the intended way to Mr F.? I get broadhead arrows , so I thought that I need to hit a switch, but I couldn't see any switch. There is hole leading directly to Mr F., but you get hurt a lot by dropping there. I used thief's body as a cushion to get there safely, but even while inside I couldn't spot any intended way in. There is window above gate, so I thought that maybe I need to get on mall's roof, but there is invisible wall blocking it and when I eventually get there by stacking items, I was too high to get to the window. I really don't see any correct way in.
fortuni on 2/2/2022 at 22:26
Galaer
The accountant isn't the mastermind, as you said he only overheard a conversation, but to complete the objective 'Investigate who's behind all this ...' you need to find and read 6 books/scrolls, sounds like you found his book last.
To get into the thieves warehouse look above the entrance portcullis
frobbin hood on 2/2/2022 at 22:39
Well, on expert, I've disposed of everyone in the map, been everywhere I can find, but only got 2235 loot and no objectives ticked.
I have 1 loot share bag, whatever that's for and have no idea where to go now.
I have the key for the harbour warehouse but thought that was the place with the big green door at the harbour. Been there by rope.
Can't find any doors I've not been through.:confused:
baeuchlein on 2/2/2022 at 23:58
The loot share bag is a bag containing a part of the loot from the bank job. Garrett wants to collect all three of these bags.
The key for the harbour warehouse most likely fits a door inside the building which can only be entered by shooting a rope arrow into the crane and platform high up at the building's facade. If you can't find the door, well, it's not your standard door but a hatch accessible from a ladder.
This should give you at least one more door you can get through.
And another hint: In the police or guard station, you should look for a hidden switch or button; I'm almost sure you have not found it yet.
frobbin hood on 3/2/2022 at 00:01
Thanks baeuchlein.
I'd forgotten about that hatch. And I'll check the City Watch again.. That's where I found the loot bag.
Now I can't beat the trap. Is there a fire arrow anywhere in the mission?
Swiz on 3/2/2022 at 00:19
Quote Posted by frobbin hood
Thanks baeuchlein.
Now I can't beat the trap. Is there a
fire arrow anywhere in the mission?
There are
(in the Hammer area) but I just
threw flares up there until it went off
frobbin hood on 3/2/2022 at 00:26
Didn't work for me Swiz. I'll try again...
Where is the Hammer area?
Dahenjo on 3/2/2022 at 01:42
Quote Posted by frobbin hood
Didn't work for me Swiz. I'll try again...
Where is the
Hammer area?
In the
Mechanist building look for
two generators you can
climb in between.
Galaer on 3/2/2022 at 07:29
Quote Posted by fortuni
To get into the thieves warehouse look
above the entrance portcullisThanks, fortuni, this is really random place for a switch.