T2 FM - Cathedral of the Damned v0.60 (Jan 2002)

Garrettwannabe on 15/1/2002 at 04:36

No, the reason I thought it was a TGold file was because when I open Darkloader in T2 it showed nothing on the screen except "you need Thief 1 to play this mission" in the top right area and none of the icons at the bottom of the DLoader could be accessed (all blanked out) but when I threw it in Darkloader in my TGOLD directory it showed that it would run and all the icons could be clicked on. It even went all the way to the objectives and started loading and then just exited out. Your doc page is cool but you might want to put the regular readme.doc in there also just in case someone's confused like me <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Also, if I extract all your files and they make new directories in my T2 folder - then I will have to manually clear out all those files (I'm thinking mostly of the Dark2.gam) after I get done playing the mission I guess, is that correct?

[ January 14, 2002: Message edited by: Garrettwannabe ]

epithumia on 15/1/2002 at 04:45

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Originally posted by Garrettwannabe: The only thing I found different was the file I got from the "Cheap Missions" webpage was actually 12,501K in size. Somehow, I got more than the 12.2 size.<hr></blockquote>

The file is 12801001 bytes long; divide by 1024 and you get 12500KB (or KiB if you buy into the whole kibibytes/mebibytes thing). Divide again by 1024 and you get 12.2MB. Sorry, I'm a computer science kind of person and work in powers of two.

Purah on 15/1/2002 at 05:07

I had fun opening this stripped mission in dromed b/c from a designer's point of view, this mission is cleaner than anything LGS ever released. I mean clean in the hierarchy, and clean in the object properties areas. DA, either you are obsessive compulsive, or just extremely thorough.

I did not notice any "hacked" objects that were simply "other objects" with hacked properties...everything has its proper place in the hierarchy. Even the "design notes" are filled out w/ little whatsit notes about how the item will work/should work in final release. I was stunned by the level of design detail (which no one sees) as much or more than the level of in-game detail.

I do agree with some sentiments about slow moving doors/cramped halls/and objects with pick ranges that are too short. It is annoying to have to frob a door and then step back so it can open. Beyond that, this level could be a real masterpiece if it was finished up.

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-P

Garrettwannabe on 15/1/2002 at 06:17

Dark Angel, couldn't get it to load up in DLoader but I did get it to run thru Dromed and I gotta say it looks great. I have to admit, throwing it up in Dromed gave me the opportunity to enter the lil command to wander around unnoticed (which was good with all them killers in there....) <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> checking out the great architecture.

I agree that this would be a awesome mission to finish - it seems like your pretty close now - but either way, some great work you've done in there and thx for releasing it.

Dark Angel on 15/1/2002 at 06:20

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Originally posted by Garrettwannabe: Also, if I extract all your files and they make new directories in my T2 folder - then I will have to manually clear out all those files (I'm thinking mostly of the Dark2.gam) after I get done playing the mission I guess, is that correct?<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, thats right. (Dark2.gam wouldn't really matter as much as you think it might though because the Thief II missions call for a Dark.gam) All you'd really need to remove would be the 'Strings' directory to get Thief II working normally but..yeah go ahead and remove all of them <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Oh and yeah Purah, i probably am obsessive compulsive, hehehe <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: Dark Angel ]

Saturnine on 15/1/2002 at 21:01

It didn't work in DarkLoader for me either <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

Angel, I've been waiting for this for ages, I don't know whats up with your aversion to DarkLoader but if you're making another zip that will open like *EVERYONE ELSES* mission <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> Then I'll download it again.

btw where are you on ICQ lately?

Hawklette on 15/1/2002 at 21:38

What necromancer? Are you talking about the guy by the book in the chapel? I used one holy water arrow and blew him up before he could move. Did I miss something other than loot. That I am short of. I did notice reference to a gem but I can't seem to find the rest. Stats say there is total 1710 loot. I have 1117 loot and 175 gems. Also found the dagger and a hidden hammer. Anyone remember anything else. Thanks <img src="graemlins/idea.gif" border="0" alt="[Idea]" />

Hawklette on 15/1/2002 at 22:18

Found the gem and it finshed my loot objective but I was still 185 short. Did find a wonderful old lantern. Very clever, loved it. Next time I play this one I will look for it first. LOL <img src="graemlins/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="[Thumbs Up!]" />

schwaa on 16/1/2002 at 09:27

Great Mission!!! I liked all the same things mentioned above, great terrain, textures, objects, ambieance, ect... The Sword is great Now the nitpicking (nothing serious):

i really don't understand why its not Darkloader compatible, really, its easy for you, its easy for us. Its a great program and I really think you should try it out. Do you really manually unpack every mission? What a pain... Besides, the only "briefing" I got was a weird object list, so the story about how the Cathedral ended up being haunted was lost to me.

I found a book with spiders (back entrance, through little building) that lights up as if it should frob but it doesn't. Is it supposed to?

It is really annoying have that small of a pick distance!!!

It would be cool if the map had some room descriptions or floor #'s, I couldn't tell where I was some of the time and had a hard time figuring it out on the map (which is good (good map), just seems like if somebody new the layout that good when they made the map they just might've labeled it too). =================================== I still haven't finished, need to find, would appreciate help: <blockquote>Spoiler:<div style="background-color:#000080">the ring on tmbstone, the key for metal door (I'll search dead guys), There's another key??? I thought I was looking for a scepter, but someone mentioned a dagger, if its behind the metal door I'll find it. The stone door, how does it open, any clues?

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Anyway, it was very fun, first Undead mission I've enjoyed, guess I have to play MetalHead's latest release, I think I've got a new appreciation for them now. Thanx!!!

Oh Yeah, please Darkload it!!!

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[ January 16, 2002: Message edited by: schwaa ]

Brian_R171 on 16/1/2002 at 17:10

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Originally posted by Hawklette: What necromancer? Are you talking about the guy by the book in the chapel? I used one holy water arrow and blew him up before he could move. Did I miss something other than loot. That I am short of. I did notice reference to a gem but I can't seem to find the rest. Stats say there is total 1710 loot. I have 1117 loot and 175 gems. Also found the dagger and a hidden hammer. Anyone remember anything else. <hr></blockquote>

Hawklette, the "necromancer" people are referring to is the ghost walking around outside on the grass. He walks a complete circle clockwise around the outside of the cathedral. I saw him about 20 seconds after the mission started but never again. Dark Angel thinks he's stuck in a wall.

As for the missing loot: <blockquote>Spoiler:<div style="background-color:#000080">There is a gold ring that's very hard to see. It's sitting on the sill of a stained glass window in a room in the center of the second floor. There's also a statue on a ledge in the main room sort of above the window with the ring. There's a cup behind the crates in the storage room on the 3rd floor. Don't miss the purse on one of the pews in the main room. It's sitting in plain site but hard to see. That was the last thing I found.</div></blockquote>

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