Aged Raver on 8/12/2021 at 18:38
Quote Posted by A.Stahl
Can the watchers be switched off? I've found the mask but I feel like this mission is hugely underinvestigated by me and I want to do that in a calm atmosphere...
For what it's worth ... Playing on Easy (knocking people out etc) I disabled two of those watching cameras with mines. From behind a pillar I threw a mine at the watcher on the level below. Most times the mine activated and exploded, presumably triggered by the camera movement. I only had 2 mines so that took care of the first two. For the lower third watcher I used a slow-fall potion to get to the basement. (Elsewhere in the game I'd already used a large explosive device placed underneath a watcher and threw a lighted torch at it to explode and destroy the CCTV, having used up my Fire Arrow on another watcher). No ghosting for me. :joke:
MrMunkeepants on 9/12/2021 at 06:48
quick thoughts:
this mission is beautiful! I don't play with texture patches, but maybe I should; my compliment extends to the uneven pipes and rolling hills, and hidden vignettes in the mission architecture. even the sheen on marble floors and sparkling crystals in snow drifts
this mission is quite challenging! many hard metal surfaces and overlapping guard patrols, but balanced with carpet and dark patches
this mission has a lot of backstory! and a lot of readables - maybe too many of significant length
some questions & issues:
are the visible places outside the complex (like the cabin and docks) reachable?
did you shorten the frob distance? I feel like Garrett's reach isn't as long as usual
I've had a lot of trouble with getting on some ladders (particularly in the elevator shafts) and falling.
The light pools & shadows on the ground don't always correspond to light & dark for visibility; I've tried to hide in darkness (around the pool) and been fully visible.
the ledges from the observation floor to the chapel ceiling are slanted just enough that I couldn't get back in. I had to take the long way around, and it was frustrating.
okay, time to go to the vault!
Bosh on 9/12/2021 at 09:02
Wow, what an atmospheric, good-looking mission. Thank you Personne. I enjoyed this one very much. I hope you plan on making more FMs :)
S1LVERW0LF on 9/12/2021 at 16:07
Does this mission remind anyone of the great iron/steel boiler room style levels in Shadowman? It's amazing how much I reminisced about that game playing this.
RippedPhreak on 9/12/2021 at 16:23
Not the author, but: Cabin and docks should not be reachable outside of the Dromed editor.
The frob distance is reduced for some items, yes . Might have to lean in and search a bit harder to see some of the loots.
As for the ladders, try changing your in-game ladder attach option to "touch." Or of it's on "touch" change it to "jump" and see if that helps.
sexypat on 9/12/2021 at 18:12
what key do I need to open the door under the watcher with the 2 turrets on each side ?
Dahenjo on 9/12/2021 at 20:00
Quote Posted by sexypat
what key do I need to open the door under the watcher with the 2 turrets on each side ?
key, but I didn't get it till later on so used
another way out from the upper floor. Btw, that's the same door you enter from the outside
using the silver & gold gear keys.
sexypat on 9/12/2021 at 20:17
Quote Posted by Dahenjo
Main Gate key, but I didn't get it till later on so used
another way out from the upper floor. Btw, that's the same door you enter from the outside
using the silver & gold gear keys.
thanks !! but it wasn't what I expected lol , didn't realized it was the door opened with the gears on the other side ...
I feel like I'm missing a big part of this place
ok just found the vault , but sill missing 4 secrets and 5000 loot , must be missing a whole area
lordhern on 10/12/2021 at 15:04
Quote Posted by sexypat
thanks !! but it wasn't what I expected lol , didn't realized it was the door opened with the gears on the other side ...
I feel like I'm missing a big part of this place
ok just found the vault , but sill missing 4 secrets and 5000 loot , must be missing a whole area
for loot : there are many places with scattered coins. look up at overhead pipes - there is often loot above you. There is loot on the other side of some walls outside. go for extend swimming.
be diligent in your search. there is much to explore in this level.
vincentlancon on 11/12/2021 at 00:44
What a good, fun, atmospheric level. The only question I have is at the very end you return to where you start, but if you look around there is a guarded exit open. Is there anything there worth going that way?
