Balboa on 2/12/2010 at 12:24
Quote Posted by Haplo
That's fine, actually he has probably used TrapDelayer script which is only available in miss16.osm. However, just like Gen and ConVict, the mission specific OSMs get installed with the game and there is no need to ship them.
I've had (or at least thought I had) problems in the past with TrapDelayer not working, so I just include it by default.
Balboa on 2/12/2010 at 12:28
There never seems to be one answer that works for everyone. :sweat:
If you can't get the movies to play on your system, you can just delete them from the mission zip. There is no critical information in them - they just set the scene.
And, did I mention that movies are a pain?
fibanocci on 2/12/2010 at 12:33
I'm in the hammers dorm, found something under a bed. How to get out of here?
ticky on 2/12/2010 at 12:47
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVED VANDAL! I'm happy to see this out! :cool:
Balboa on 2/12/2010 at 13:23
Quote Posted by fibanocci
I'm in the
hammers dorm, found something under a bed. How to get out of here? Look around for
something that doesn't look quite right. You've got everything you need.
InfinituS on 2/12/2010 at 14:10
Congrats on your release Balboa :thumb: Loved Vandal :D
Unkillable Cat on 2/12/2010 at 14:10
Just finished. This was a great mission.
Missing about 600 in loot, found only 1 secret and 2 bonus objectives. I also only found 1 Hammer station, so a replay is coming up soon.
About the only thing I didn't like about this mission was how new enemies appeared without warning, or how the warning only came somewhat afterwards. Reading a note that said something along the lines of "BTW Garrett, the watch stepped up their patrols" while sitting on a pile of unconscious watchmen felt a little weird.
Oh, and the herding. I hate being herded. By that, I mean instances where all the exists mysteriously close themselves except the one the author wants you to go through. It happens once in Ladytaker, and the way out wasn't obvious because the solution involved revisiting a previous location and finding something that wasn't there earlier.
The good parts include all the little plots running alongside the main one, the details you spot along the way, like Benny's letter, which is hilarious, and the "plaque" in the Verminatrix shop. The story moves along quite well, and there's loads of different things to do. Even climbers should find something to do here as well.
Overall, a great effort and fantastic mission. At least an 8, closing in on a 9.
Warning: Game-breaking spoiler below! Do NOT read unless you've completed Ladytaker!
I haven't tested this, but I think this mission can be broken quite badly because the doors to the Shrubbery shop can be bashed in. This could mean that certain events could be played out of sequence, especially since you can get the Vermin Buster before you spring Fat Timmy. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, this way you can skip all the objectives related to Elenora and the Ladytaker. So the order of events would be:
1: Get VB.
2: Break into Shrubbery shop.
3: Pull off the heist. (Ensure your escape route first!)
4: Escape to the Bloated Burrick through the Anvil and sewers.
5: Hear about Fat Timmy being nicked.
6: Spring Fat Timmy.
7: Return Fat Timmy to the Bloated Burrick.
8: Wait for universe to possibly implode as you're standing in the Bloated Burrick with the Hammer and Fat Timmy lying unconscious at your feet.
9: ...
10: Profit?
The loot requirement could be a problem, but I'm not even certain that is too much of an obstacle. Along the way you do find the U.T. key, and there's nothing to stop you from using it...
Note: If the above is doable, then don't look at it as a flaw in your FM. Quite the contrary. Being able to break a game without having to resort to cheating is one of the most fun things you can do.
Balboa on 2/12/2010 at 14:26
Quote Posted by Unkillable Cat
Oh, and the herding. I hate being herded.
I appreciate the sentiment. It's difficult, with any kind of sequential storyline, and the Dark Engine doesn't make it any easier. Forced choices are best when they are not
obviously forced, but sometimes you're between a rock and a burrick.
Oh, and all loot objectives are possible without any secrets or bonuses.
shadows on 2/12/2010 at 14:55
I had the crash to desktop problem, when i clicked 'New Game', but removed the movies (b22 and cs22 from movies folder) and it worked.
Ravenhook on 2/12/2010 at 15:21
Stuck fast...I have sprung Timmy, I have listened to the ghost in lady walk I have found the secret pagan area..but apart from standing on the dish in front of the statue I'm unsure what to do, I have pinched the hammer and now I cant get back through the Upton gate as the small portculis has dropped...I cant jump over to the Anvil balcony but if I did its full of baddies and I cant find the sewer gate key or the woman who speaks for the dead....as I said, I'm stuck fast from this enjoyable mission.
Help please.
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