T2 FM: Sisterhood of Azura Part 1 - Estheridge (13 Jun. 2002) - by Ben Hur
Ben Hur on 7/8/2002 at 09:23
[SPOILER]You are in the lane behind King Street I take it.
Have you been in Lord Wilson's flat and found the 2 secrets ?
I think not if that windows still there !![/SPOILER]
Ben Hur:thumb:
roannok on 7/8/2002 at 14:16
It has been a few days since I was in that place and I don't remember how many of those I found. I remember something... I will check again. Thanks for the hint!
Helen M.
glennicus on 7/8/2002 at 16:19
I can't find either of the secrets in Lord Wilson's ... I see the lighter colored square in the kitchen, but can't figure out what makes it open up. I'm finding this mission to be very confusing. I keep expecting to find a change in objectives as I gather more information, but that is not the case.
roannok on 7/8/2002 at 19:57
I think I pressed that a coupla times. Not sure if anything happened. I heard a noise like a coke machine maybe?
What do you find confusing about this mission? My only confusions come from
--secrets being more important to the plot than usual
--no clues about where I can kill old Josh (hoping to stumble across him)
Looking for a Keeper ... this reminds me of a mission I played twice some time ago. I sneak into a Keeper compound filled with rogue keepers ... they're all hard to see and/or invisible just like Garrett. That was a great mission!
Game on,
Helen M.
Ben Hur on 7/8/2002 at 21:31
[SPOILER]Have a look in the closet across from the kitchen[/SPOILER]
:thumb:
roannok on 7/8/2002 at 21:39
This is one example of me being a silly gamer!
[SPOILER]That frelling closet! I have been in there about three times looking around---and saw nothing! I am blind over here! Arg![/SPOILER]
As usual, thanks for the tip. I haven't been back "in" yet. Waiting for dark :-p
Helen M.
Ben Hur on 7/8/2002 at 21:42
Glennicus - Originally Azura was going to be one big giant level of humungous proportions, but, by the time I'd got round to doing the Big House it was apparant
that it would have to be split over a couple of levels.
By the time you get to the Mansion ( end objective) you should really hate the Azura, the mechs, the murders.....
Which sets the mood for Part 2 :thumb:
( plus I didn't know how to do new objectives at the time )
Cheers
Ben Hur
glennicus on 8/8/2002 at 02:09
What confused me was the conflicting objectives. For example, going to the Tipple Burrick was one of the last things I did after cleaning out the rest of the town -- consequently, I encountered documentation discussing the "raid" on the inn that had happened earlier, but actually hadn't happened yet because I hadn't been there. Also, there did not seem to be any purpose -- stated in the objective -- in going to the inn, but in hindsight, it seems implied that the purpose was to meet Sara, whom is not there. So, that makes the "Find Sara" objective clear, but, really, it should have been a new objective after we discover that she was no longer at the inn. It just seems to me that this mission is supposed to have a linear narration, but it doesn't because of the way the objectives were structured -- and I'm usually much more interested in a mission with a good (and unique or novel) narrative technique than anything else. That's not to say I'm not having any fun with this one ... :ebil:
This is new:
DOH! Ben Hur, I wrote the above before I saw your recent post (didn't realize we'd gone to two pages). I hope I don't sound too negative up there ... my critique is a result of my failure to attempt a completion of the objectives in order. I do not have -- or ever will -- any ability to create a mission, or understanding of how it is done, but I imagine that it would be easier to put up a gate blocking off of the starting area, with a key to that gate in the inn, forcing dumb players -- like myself -- to go in the inn first, rather than putting "new objectives" into the mission. What I like the best about this mission is that I don't feel like a loser for not ghosting it ... :thumb:
roannok on 8/8/2002 at 02:38
The thing with the raid is, they don't attack you unless you go behind the bar. And the first time I went in there, I didn't go behind the bar. I came back later with my 7 magic gas arrows and had me a good time. :-p
Helen M.
Melissa on 8/8/2002 at 03:20
Well, my turn from some questions - I'm rather stuck.
I found the Eye.
I found Sara.
[SPOILER]Dead, from two Mechanists. I took care of them and wandered that new part of the city. Found the open window with the overhanging piece of wood, climbed a rope arrow to find myself back at the Lord's place. I've already found both secretes in the mansion.[/SPOILER]
Where the HECK is Joshua (I think I recall his name right)? There one person left standing in town, even with all of the re-spawning. He's standing by an open window, and he's got a wall of inpenetrable something saving him from my arrows.
I've wandered around a bit in the Sisterhood, stopping before the room with the two guards and the cannon because I just can't figure out how I'm to get past them.
I managed to escape the Church with my life after my little teleporting adventure in the tomb.
I'm out of gas arrows and tired of having to kill guards to get past them (I prefer to sneak up and blackjack). Is the only entrance to the main Cathedral through the front doors? I can't find any other way, although I have a key to the back.
Thanks for any help :)
Cheers!
-M
